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President Obama's birth doctor, James Ang'awa, was neighbors with Barack Obama Senior in the 1960s
allafrica.com and Mary Ang'awa (Dr. James Ang'awa's daughther) ^ | 03.05.2010 | InspectorSmith

Posted on 03/05/2010 7:56:12 PM PST by InspectorSmith

Dr Ang'awa had worked in Embu, Kiambu, Kilifi, Mombasa, Kakamega and Bungoma and was one of the best known members of the medical profession in the country.

Her father was brutally killed when she was a teenager more than 40 years ago, but Lady Justice Mary Ang'awa has opted to forgive his killer. During her reflection at a recent meeting to plan the 40th anniversary of the death of her father, she had no qualms about offering a pardon. "I have forgiven you," she says is the message she has for the killer of Dr James Ang'awa.

One of the pioneer medical specialists in the country, Dr Ang'awa was hit on the head with a blunt object on Tom Mboya Street by an unknown assailant.

A police inquest cleared a suspect who had been arrested although Justice Ang'awa is not convinced the decision was the right one. "My father died a painful death. Investigations and inquests were concluded. I and my brothers--Antony, Hillary, Charles and William-- have climbed a steep path to success with the guidance of our mother Perez. So the best thing to do is to forgive the killer," she told the Sunday Nation.

At the time of her father's death, Justice Ang'awa was a Form One student at Limuru Girls' high school. Her family enjoyed a comfortable life; her father was establishing a reputation for his research into treatment of tuberculosis.

The family lived in high-class government quarters in Upper Hill. Among their neighbours were Dr Njoroge Mungai, former President Kenyatta's personal physician, President Kibaki, who was then minister for Finance and the late Barack Obama Sr, father of American President Barack Obama.

The family was evicted from the house three months after Dr Ang'awa's death.

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KEYWORDS: angawa; artbell; awgeez; barackobama; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; coastprovincial; eligilbility; inelegible; kenya; lucassmith; mombasa; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamafamily; tinfoilhat
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To: dgroundhog

please please please

I know Mr Smith is really really really a good man and he will answer my questions

Where is Andy Lenny?


381 posted on 03/06/2010 11:49:04 PM PST by woofie
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To: All

To anyone who still doubts...Lucas does answer all questions as soon as he can.
Ask yourselves..
Why doen’t bama answer ANY questions on the birth certificate issue? The colb he posted has been declared a fake by 4 document inspectors.
Why has all the media been threatened into silence on the issue?
Why has bama spent over $2 million taxpayer dollars fighting the release of his records?
You have to show your children’s birth certificates to enroll them in school or let them join a biddy baseball team. But not for the Oval Office?
The Kenyan gov sealed all his records in Kenya. What is to seal if not birth records?
There are many more but try to find the answers to those and you’ll get the idea.


382 posted on 03/06/2010 11:59:32 PM PST by theviking711 (theviking711)
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To: dgroundhog

the thought that we are having a discussion with someone who posts lies about Palin on dummyland forums just makes me wanna puke, so conservatives are polite and reasonable people, but aren’t we taking that a little too far? He aught to be blasted out of here.


383 posted on 03/07/2010 12:00:04 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: theviking711

You want to expose me as a fraudster, Lucas ? What is the point besides distraction, Lucas ?

301 posted on 12/07/2009 3:31:26 PM PST by Mik Taerg

Kim has a little Freudian slip, I think.

Distraction is obviously the reason for his antics.


384 posted on 03/07/2010 12:07:20 AM PST by dgroundhog
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To: woofie

Are you going to comment on the actual article that started this thread?

Every comment you have made in this thread is nothing but you acting like a little kid. Did you sign up when you were 2? Are you on Daddy’s FR account?

You don’t find it a little coincidental that the Dr Lucas chose to use in his forgery is only now acknowledged as a BHO Sr. neighbor in Mombassa?

you really have no comment on that little nugger of info? You think Lucas is just a good Googler? He got lucky? It’s all a big conspiracy?

No comment at all, other than to act like a fool?


385 posted on 03/07/2010 12:12:56 AM PST by dgroundhog
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To: dgroundhog

Kim never was very good at this. He slipped up in his tirades so many times, I lost count. All these “attackers” do is try to distract from the issue because they know theirs is a lost cause but, like a dog with a bone, they just don’t know when to quit.


386 posted on 03/07/2010 12:15:56 AM PST by theviking711 (theviking711)
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To: theviking711

Agreed.

Not one of these critics is willing to comment on the article that started the thread or the odds of Lucas picking that name out of thin air and somehow coercing Ang’awa’s daughter to get in on the conspiracy.

Amazing how Lucas coordinated all of this from his computer that he never moves from.


387 posted on 03/07/2010 12:25:09 AM PST by dgroundhog
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To: dgroundhog

You are right about that.
I have to go to work at noon Sun & it’s 2:30 am here so I’ll say good night.


388 posted on 03/07/2010 12:40:16 AM PST by theviking711 (theviking711)
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To: theviking711

G’night Viking!


389 posted on 03/07/2010 12:45:28 AM PST by dgroundhog
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To: dgroundhog

Sorry I guess I am just too damn dumb to see that it all amounts to much ...All I could see from the article is that all the rich folks in Kenya lived in the same neighborhood . does that surprise me? no

how many rich people were there back then

How many pediatricians were there in Kenya in the 60s ? How many possible people could have signed the document ?

if someone created a fake document I would think they would do research and determine who could have possibly signed it back then....how hard is that to do ? i have no idea? If it was impossible to know and now it is proven to be correct then I guess the document is real. But is that what this article says?

I dont think so.
I dont think the article even says definitely that Obama Sr knew Ang’gawa.

I think all it says is that they were in the same neighborhood

Is Wnd wrong? Maybe

This is all I can find in the article that is at all relevant:

The family lived in high-class government quarters in Upper Hill. Among their neighbours were Dr Njoroge Mungai, former President Kenyatta’s personal physician, President Kibaki, who was then minister for Finance and the late Barack Obama Sr, father of American President Barack Obama.

and this:

Dr Ang’awa was the director of the national anti-tuberculosis unit at the ministry of Health. He had traversed the country as a medical officer after graduating from Makerere University in the late 1940s and after obtaining post-graduate degrees in Canada and Britain.

Dr Ang’awa had worked in Embu, Kiambu, Kilifi, Mombasa, Kakamega and Bungoma and was one of the best known members of the medical profession in the country.
.................

So If I was gonna make up this BC document I would look up Doctors who worked in Mombassa at the time of Obamas birth.Could that have been done? I see no reason why not

Please tell me if Im wrong

and please ask Smith to answer my questions.

they are simple questions ...the kind a dunb guy like me would ask


390 posted on 03/07/2010 12:47:32 AM PST by woofie
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To: woofie

Well WND and other critics claimed that Ang’awa practiced at Kenyatta National Hospital in Nairobi and never practiced at any hospital in Mombassa.

If he lived in Mombass then it is fairly safe to assume he also worked in or near Mombassa. Lucas already showed that once - but the allegations still exist. That WND is still referred to by many as ‘proof’ Lucas’ document is a forgery.

I still have my doubts. I do not know Lucas personally. I certainly was not with him when he obtained it. I am not a document expert.

I can only look at the document and arguments for and against. The document has held up very well. This latest revelation only bolsters the possibility.

It doesn’t prove anything to me. It pushes me a little closer to believing the document may in fact be real.

In any case the document continues to intrigue the hell out of me.

As for answering some of the demands to ‘tell his story’ I would think that would not be advised by an attorney if Lucas ever was to testify in court - which at this point seems to be his main intent.

If and when it is time to tell his story I am sure he will do it in his own way. Just like I wouldn’t tell James Cameron to write Avatar so it wasn’t an anti-American, anti-military smurfs on steroids movie I wouldn’t tell Lucas how to tell his story.

I do not press him on details because it is apparent to me that Lucas is quite independent and will do things his own way regardless of what I want him to do.


391 posted on 03/07/2010 1:03:48 AM PST by dgroundhog
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To: philetus; Seizethecarp; dgroundhog

To: Philetus.

It’s a typo. It was meant to read “FIND” and not “MIND”

If that’s all you have then maybe you should hit the book and do a little research. Or maybe do some traveling.

What’s next, you’ll point out the fact that I always wear the same hat and always where strip shirts so how could anyone believe me??? You are sort of just as good as Orly Taitz is at arguing on the merits.


392 posted on 03/07/2010 9:01:58 AM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: theviking711; dgroundhog; Seizethecarp; LucyT; Fred Nerks

My earlier post here was supposed to read “brilliant FIND” and not “MIND”. It was a typo. I don’t anyone to think that I have an ego like that or that I would ever say any something like that.

Thank you everyone.


393 posted on 03/07/2010 9:04:51 AM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: dgroundhog; theviking711

Your post Wolffie: “Congrats on 12 years of deceiving FR!”

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! ha haha hah! That’s the best one I’ve heard in a while!


394 posted on 03/07/2010 9:08:44 AM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: InspectorSmith
Better have a look at this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2457491/posts?page=3108#3108

395 posted on 03/07/2010 9:12:09 AM PST by Natural Born 54
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To: dgroundhog

I will reply. No problem.
What you define as an extraordinary find is a about having 2 persons living in the same city in moments in a lapse of time of 10 years.
First of all this City is Nairobi not Mombasa. Nairobi, the capital, is host to government institutions and on would expect government officers to live there at some point in their careers. Let’s say you make a find about myself and Lucas Smith and you discover that we both have lived in New York or Los Angeles sometimes between 1960 and 1970, Would this make us associates ?
There are possibly millions of Kenyans who at a certain point in their lives lived in Nairobi. So what ?
But now an interesting question arises. Why since they were neighbours in Nairobi did Ang’awa and Obama I decide for Obama II to be born in Mombasa ? Why not Nairobi ? And also, is there any role for Obama’s mother in this scheme ?


396 posted on 03/07/2010 9:14:56 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: theviking711

My comments have links and sources.


397 posted on 03/07/2010 9:16:15 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: theviking711

sorry viking,

but Lucas has not answered questions. It’s fact.


398 posted on 03/07/2010 9:19:21 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: hoosiermama

I would love to be invited. Thanks.


399 posted on 03/07/2010 9:27:03 AM PST by Josephat
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To: All

I confirm the location of the “friendship” neighborhood btween Obama sr and Ag’awa is Nairobi and not Mombasa:

Tom Mboya street: Nairobi
Upper Hill: Nairobi - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nairobi
Limuru Girls High School - Kiambu, just north of Nairobi.

So the conspirators befriended in Nairobi which had the least lousy hospitals in Kenya and an international airport and yet they got the userper born in Mombasa.


400 posted on 03/07/2010 9:40:46 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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