Sorry I guess I am just too damn dumb to see that it all amounts to much ...All I could see from the article is that all the rich folks in Kenya lived in the same neighborhood . does that surprise me? no
how many rich people were there back then
How many pediatricians were there in Kenya in the 60s ? How many possible people could have signed the document ?
if someone created a fake document I would think they would do research and determine who could have possibly signed it back then....how hard is that to do ? i have no idea? If it was impossible to know and now it is proven to be correct then I guess the document is real. But is that what this article says?
I dont think so.
I dont think the article even says definitely that Obama Sr knew Ang’gawa.
I think all it says is that they were in the same neighborhood
Is Wnd wrong? Maybe
This is all I can find in the article that is at all relevant:
The family lived in high-class government quarters in Upper Hill. Among their neighbours were Dr Njoroge Mungai, former President Kenyatta’s personal physician, President Kibaki, who was then minister for Finance and the late Barack Obama Sr, father of American President Barack Obama.
and this:
Dr Ang’awa was the director of the national anti-tuberculosis unit at the ministry of Health. He had traversed the country as a medical officer after graduating from Makerere University in the late 1940s and after obtaining post-graduate degrees in Canada and Britain.
Dr Ang’awa had worked in Embu, Kiambu, Kilifi, Mombasa, Kakamega and Bungoma and was one of the best known members of the medical profession in the country.
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So If I was gonna make up this BC document I would look up Doctors who worked in Mombassa at the time of Obamas birth.Could that have been done? I see no reason why not
Please tell me if Im wrong
and please ask Smith to answer my questions.
they are simple questions ...the kind a dunb guy like me would ask
Well WND and other critics claimed that Ang’awa practiced at Kenyatta National Hospital in Nairobi and never practiced at any hospital in Mombassa.
If he lived in Mombass then it is fairly safe to assume he also worked in or near Mombassa. Lucas already showed that once - but the allegations still exist. That WND is still referred to by many as ‘proof’ Lucas’ document is a forgery.
I still have my doubts. I do not know Lucas personally. I certainly was not with him when he obtained it. I am not a document expert.
I can only look at the document and arguments for and against. The document has held up very well. This latest revelation only bolsters the possibility.
It doesn’t prove anything to me. It pushes me a little closer to believing the document may in fact be real.
In any case the document continues to intrigue the hell out of me.
As for answering some of the demands to ‘tell his story’ I would think that would not be advised by an attorney if Lucas ever was to testify in court - which at this point seems to be his main intent.
If and when it is time to tell his story I am sure he will do it in his own way. Just like I wouldn’t tell James Cameron to write Avatar so it wasn’t an anti-American, anti-military smurfs on steroids movie I wouldn’t tell Lucas how to tell his story.
I do not press him on details because it is apparent to me that Lucas is quite independent and will do things his own way regardless of what I want him to do.
A few thoughts here, driven by a poster I cannot remember, dealing with the value of such a birth certificate. Asking is it under lock and key in a safety deposit or similar. Now, if it is a forgery, it is virtually worthless. Unless someone would pay a few hundred for it's curiosity value. Now follow a line of reasoning if it was the real thing.
There are two moneyed and powerful forces at work here. Both are at odds with each other. Take the first one, the friends of President Obama. If the Kenyan government would have kept or destroyed the original to protect the man that must be an immense source of pride, what then?
That birth certificate would be worth starting at 100,000 dollars. To prevent any forensics on it, those forces could destroy it.
What of the opposing forces? If they got their hands on it, it could destroy the Presidential aspirations to a second term. Could they shark up a 100,000 dollar payment? I would think so.
That is a lot of money out there, there must surely be offers for it. Under exacting conditions of course.