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President Obama's birth doctor, James Ang'awa, was neighbors with Barack Obama Senior in the 1960s
allafrica.com and Mary Ang'awa (Dr. James Ang'awa's daughther) ^ | 03.05.2010 | InspectorSmith

Posted on 03/05/2010 7:56:12 PM PST by InspectorSmith

Dr Ang'awa had worked in Embu, Kiambu, Kilifi, Mombasa, Kakamega and Bungoma and was one of the best known members of the medical profession in the country.

Her father was brutally killed when she was a teenager more than 40 years ago, but Lady Justice Mary Ang'awa has opted to forgive his killer. During her reflection at a recent meeting to plan the 40th anniversary of the death of her father, she had no qualms about offering a pardon. "I have forgiven you," she says is the message she has for the killer of Dr James Ang'awa.

One of the pioneer medical specialists in the country, Dr Ang'awa was hit on the head with a blunt object on Tom Mboya Street by an unknown assailant.

A police inquest cleared a suspect who had been arrested although Justice Ang'awa is not convinced the decision was the right one. "My father died a painful death. Investigations and inquests were concluded. I and my brothers--Antony, Hillary, Charles and William-- have climbed a steep path to success with the guidance of our mother Perez. So the best thing to do is to forgive the killer," she told the Sunday Nation.

At the time of her father's death, Justice Ang'awa was a Form One student at Limuru Girls' high school. Her family enjoyed a comfortable life; her father was establishing a reputation for his research into treatment of tuberculosis.

The family lived in high-class government quarters in Upper Hill. Among their neighbours were Dr Njoroge Mungai, former President Kenyatta's personal physician, President Kibaki, who was then minister for Finance and the late Barack Obama Sr, father of American President Barack Obama.

The family was evicted from the house three months after Dr Ang'awa's death.

(Excerpt) Read more at allafrica.com ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: angawa; artbell; awgeez; barackobama; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; coastprovincial; eligilbility; inelegible; kenya; lucassmith; mombasa; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamafamily; tinfoilhat
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To: philetus

Looks to me like you, woofie and Kim are the only people who are stuck in denial.

Will you at least admit it is a HUGE coincidence that this Dr whom you apparently think Lucas selected to place on his forged document and had no previous history of any association with Obama or living or working in Mombassa suddenly appears as a neighbor of BHO Sr in Mombassa?

To believe he forged this document is to believe Lucas performed the research to find out the current Hospital Administrator, the Supervisor of Obstetrics from 1961, and this Dr Ang’awa.

Info that WND told us was wholly innacurate. The Hospital didn’t exist by that name an 1961 (disproven by Lucas). The Dr. never practiced in Mombassa (disproven by Lucas).

He would need to get all that info that nobody else could get - and then place Ang’awa directly to Obama Sr when it had never been publicly done before.

That’s a hell of an attempt at a forgery. Lucas critics will cry ‘bbbbut he is a convicted forger’. I would argue that passing a few bad checks around town is a far cry from forging a Kenyan BC from 1961 and hit with such uncanny accuracy.

This is a stunning revelation to the open minded person.

Obviously this escapes people like you, woofie, and Kim.


361 posted on 03/06/2010 10:52:45 PM PST by dgroundhog
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To: woofie

No, I signed up to discuss the bombshell revelation that the Dr who WND said never practiced in Mombassa is now an acknowledged neighbor of BHO Sr by the Dr’s own daughter.

That is a hell of a forgery job by Lucas. To believe it is a forgery is to believe there is a conspiracy to support Lucas’ document involving the daughter of James O.W. Ang’awa himself.

...what, are you some kinda conspiracy nutter?


362 posted on 03/06/2010 10:52:45 PM PST by dgroundhog
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To: SatinDoll

Excellent point about the HI DOH refusing to verify the online COLB’s.

They probably know a little more about that ‘filed by registrar’ versus ‘accepted by state registrar’ deignation than they have publicly acknowledged.


363 posted on 03/06/2010 10:56:02 PM PST by dgroundhog
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To: woofie

Congrats on 12 years of deceiving FR!


364 posted on 03/06/2010 11:04:19 PM PST by dgroundhog
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To: dgroundhog

Honestly, I don’t know where Obama was born.

But circumstantial evidence pointing to someplace other than Hawaii stubbornly keeps popping up.


365 posted on 03/06/2010 11:05:58 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Good catch on Mystylplx editing Wikipedia to try and hide the fact that Kenya uses both little endian and middle endian date formats.

I edited that entry as user ‘FuPeg’ and changed it back on Sep 9 2009 There is a small exchange on the ‘discussion’ page between myself, Mytlyplx and another user or two.


366 posted on 03/06/2010 11:06:59 PM PST by dgroundhog
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To: dgroundhog

Its pretty obvious that the brilliant Mr Smith spends all his valuable time on Google proving to the world that he and he alone has uncovered the holiest of holy grails ...the true Kenyan BC of Barack Obama. I guess that is why he is on the top of the heap in the Obama BC world .

You seem like just the kind of follower he needs.

Make sure you give him some money from time to time. Tell him how wonderful he is and try not to doubt him in the days and weeks ahead.


367 posted on 03/06/2010 11:08:16 PM PST by woofie
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To: Chief Engineer

Back in 2008 I brought up the idea that Obama was possibly born in Vancouver, B.C. It does make better sense than Mombassa, Kenya, doesn’t it? But there isn’t any evidence so far.


368 posted on 03/06/2010 11:09:30 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: dgroundhog

Yea right...Im better at deception than Smith and Obama put together


369 posted on 03/06/2010 11:10:51 PM PST by woofie
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To: Fred Nerks

Ew. I feel dirty for even visiting DU.

Good find on Kim. Just another example of his ridiculous allegations based on nothing.

While I am a huge Palin fan who recently saw her speech in Redding, CA and went to the book signing in Reno I am pretty sure Lucas is not a Palin fan.

At least, he wasn’t in the past and I doubt he has changed his mind.


370 posted on 03/06/2010 11:12:57 PM PST by dgroundhog
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To: dgroundhog; Seizethecarp

WELCOME TO FREE REPUBLIC!

SeizetheCarp, lookie who’s here. You two have something to share:

“...I edited that entry as user ‘FuPeg’ and changed it back on Sep 9 2009 There is a small exchange on the ‘discussion’ page between myself, Mytlyplx and another user or two.”


371 posted on 03/06/2010 11:15:32 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: SatinDoll; curiosity
Either Obama is a foreign national or he defrauded the Federal Government. Which do you think is more likely?

Either way, BO is screwed. He's a foreign national, ineligible for the office of the President, or he's a natural born citizen and a fraud who fabricated his life story and deceived millions of Americans.

He's a fraud, either way.

Also--and I've said this before--I believe there is evidence strongly indicating he was not born at any hospital in Hawai'i.

372 posted on 03/06/2010 11:16:55 PM PST by thecodont
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To: SatinDoll

LOL I brought up the theory in 2008 as well when I was recuperating from surgery on my right arm and couldn’t make my teddy bears from recylced fur coats. I spent my time researching Jr’s “story” and have read through the long thread twice. Once I finish some ongoing jobs I will begin reading the long thread again for the third time as I am in Canada at the moment but alas on the wrong side of the province to roam the basement of Vancouver General Hospital. I will post links which are no longer valid on the long thread but I have read so much that the majority of it is in my head, I have very good memory retention although I must confess that the name of one of SAD’s friends from high school escapes me and her name is written in a notepad which is at my home in ID. She had been living in UT and had a little girl a week younger than Jr but she relayed the story of visiting with SAD just before the World’s Fair ended in 1962. Through my research I found that the Fair ended in November of 1962 so SAD was still in Seattle at that time, meaning she had to have moved back to HI after November of 1962. The other thing pointing to a home for unwed mothers was not knowing how to change a diaper. Homes for unwed mothers frowned on contact between mothers and babies since in those days the majority of babies were placed for adoption which would explain the reasoning behind not knowing how to change a diaper. It would also have been extremely easy to cross the border between B.C. and WA as the border guards simply looked at the driver’s license barely paying any attention to any passengers, a fact which has been verified by many Freepers, myself included.


373 posted on 03/06/2010 11:22:02 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: All

Curious how all his groupies support Lucas in his effort not to answer any relevant question. As if there where no doubts, no fallacies about his fraud.
It seems to be sufficient to selfproclaim oneself a patriot (US or Santo Domingo ?), rant some catchy phrase about the usurper and, as a miracle, anything will be believed. Regardless of having a 3 page criminal forgery record, regardless of selling a human kidney, regardless of writing and stamping the wrong chief administrator on a forged document, regardless of admitting to never having met him, regardless about not providing evidence of any trip to Kenya.
Acting patriot will do it, and crying “obot” as you would cry “wolf” will convince a lot.
What Lucas is doing is easy and simple, and the “patriot” posing is part of the acting. His end goal is to make some money. Anyone can play the patriot on the net, I could do it using another screen name. Some people loke to play patriots and obots (as if it where cowboys n injuns) just for fun.


374 posted on 03/06/2010 11:26:11 PM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: woofie

I think you might be surprised at how busy Lucas is.

If you think he is sitting around his computer all day I would say you have once again rushed to a judgment without having the needed facts.

I haven’t given Lucas any money, and he hasn’t asked for any. I don’t ask him for money either.

I have volunteered my time to help validate Hawaiian birth announcements for Obama, Nordyke, and others. He didn’t ask me for that, either. I read he needed help in Sacramento and was conveniently located to help, so I contacted him to volunteer.

Meanwhile, you have done what? Sat on your ass and ‘Googled’ Lucas Smith so you could smear him?


375 posted on 03/06/2010 11:27:07 PM PST by dgroundhog
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To: Mik Taerg

Mik Taerg we have been thru this all before.

We are concerned with the document and it’s validity. I really do not care about Lucas’ personal life.

Let’s say you have the Pope and Charles Manson each holding identical documents. Is one document more or less valid because of it’s source? No. The documents are equal. The source is irrelevant.

Kim why won’t you comment on this extraordinary announcement that Dr Ang’awa was actually a neighbor of BHO Sr? That IS the topic of the article, BTW.

Why post here if you do not wish to discuss the topic?

Start your own thread called ‘Why won’t Lucas release his African Adventure photos’? Then you, woofie and philetus can have your own little thread to discuss crazy birfers and their open minds.


376 posted on 03/06/2010 11:35:19 PM PST by dgroundhog
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To: dgroundhog

You are so smart ...you have me pegged ...Now since you are such good friends with the busy Mr Smith can you ask him to please,please ,please, respond to the questions in post #299. If he will answer my questions and post a couple of those pictures of his trip to Africa I will beg him to forgive me...and give him some money.

I dont blame him for not liking me any more ...I didnt tell him how wonderful he is nearly enough and I kept wondering and wondering about my questions . Please ask him Please.


377 posted on 03/06/2010 11:39:39 PM PST by woofie
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To: Chief Engineer

WOW! You’ve got great sources. Someone is bound to know the truth. Girls that age loved to talk about themselves. Wouldn’t be surprised if her then teenage friend knew who was the daddy of Obama II.

Anna divorced Obama Sr. in 1964; were you aware of this?

The following is per TheObamaFile.com. (By Beckwith - yes, he is a freeper.)

Anna filed for divorce on January 27, 1964 and remarried two years later, when her son was 5.

Obama 1964 Divorce Papers on Scribd.com (13 pages). There is no wedding license attached.

Investigators were only able to get to a copy of the sanitized divorce record. It was an incomplete copy, with page 11 missing. The scrubbed page could have been a copy of Obama’s birth certificate.

Interestingly, when researchers ordered the file, “the clerk read the index information directly from the microfiche machine over the phone when the request was placed. “14 pages total,” she said, very clearly, repeating the answer when queried several more times on the page count. When the docucment was received — page 11 was missing — bringing the total page count to 13.”


378 posted on 03/06/2010 11:45:19 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: woofie

...dang, there goes my title for pathetic post of the day.

You win, champ. I can’t compete.


379 posted on 03/06/2010 11:46:42 PM PST by dgroundhog
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To: Mik Taerg

Again,kim, all your comments are lies. You know Lucas has always answered every question in a straightforward manner. He didn’t sit on his butt like you. He went to Kenya & got a valid birth certificate proving bho was born in Mombassa. It was a dangerous & expensive trip but he did it. His reward has been the constant barrage of insults from idiots like you. You even photochopped a copy & posted it on scribd, swearing it was real. Remember that? He has spent untold hours for over a year to get more to get more information that proves his claim. You still attack him. you haven’t learned a thing in the last few months. Thaking to you is talking to a mud fence. A complete waste of time.


380 posted on 03/06/2010 11:47:37 PM PST by theviking711 (theviking711)
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