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President Obama's birth doctor, James Ang'awa, was neighbors with Barack Obama Senior in the 1960s
allafrica.com and Mary Ang'awa (Dr. James Ang'awa's daughther) ^ | 03.05.2010 | InspectorSmith

Posted on 03/05/2010 7:56:12 PM PST by InspectorSmith

Dr Ang'awa had worked in Embu, Kiambu, Kilifi, Mombasa, Kakamega and Bungoma and was one of the best known members of the medical profession in the country.

Her father was brutally killed when she was a teenager more than 40 years ago, but Lady Justice Mary Ang'awa has opted to forgive his killer. During her reflection at a recent meeting to plan the 40th anniversary of the death of her father, she had no qualms about offering a pardon. "I have forgiven you," she says is the message she has for the killer of Dr James Ang'awa.

One of the pioneer medical specialists in the country, Dr Ang'awa was hit on the head with a blunt object on Tom Mboya Street by an unknown assailant.

A police inquest cleared a suspect who had been arrested although Justice Ang'awa is not convinced the decision was the right one. "My father died a painful death. Investigations and inquests were concluded. I and my brothers--Antony, Hillary, Charles and William-- have climbed a steep path to success with the guidance of our mother Perez. So the best thing to do is to forgive the killer," she told the Sunday Nation.

At the time of her father's death, Justice Ang'awa was a Form One student at Limuru Girls' high school. Her family enjoyed a comfortable life; her father was establishing a reputation for his research into treatment of tuberculosis.

The family lived in high-class government quarters in Upper Hill. Among their neighbours were Dr Njoroge Mungai, former President Kenyatta's personal physician, President Kibaki, who was then minister for Finance and the late Barack Obama Sr, father of American President Barack Obama.

The family was evicted from the house three months after Dr Ang'awa's death.

(Excerpt) Read more at allafrica.com ...


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KEYWORDS: angawa; artbell; awgeez; barackobama; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; coastprovincial; eligilbility; inelegible; kenya; lucassmith; mombasa; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamafamily; tinfoilhat
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To: Electric Graffiti

You are correct Obama and all those who have put out his biographical info should provide a provenance (especially on the COLB)

They have not done so


301 posted on 03/06/2010 1:47:28 PM PST by woofie
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To: Peter Libra

Those are good questions ...It would be nice if he answered them


302 posted on 03/06/2010 1:52:41 PM PST by woofie
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To: InspectorSmith

I’m in for 100.

And BTW thanks for what you are doing ...


303 posted on 03/06/2010 1:55:57 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: etraveler13

See my #299


304 posted on 03/06/2010 1:57:03 PM PST by woofie
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To: etraveler13

See my #299


305 posted on 03/06/2010 1:57:47 PM PST by woofie
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To: SatinDoll

Thanks for the update.


306 posted on 03/06/2010 1:58:26 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: InspectorSmith

few things here:

First.
if the police boss got fired why hasn’t Maganga been fired as well ?

Second.
Your Anga’awa best-friend to Obama Senior Story is based in Nairobi. Your proof that Maganga was the “other Chief Administrator” comes from Belgium. Your Obama faced Sushi to prove you went to Kenya is from New Zealand. Glyphs from Egypt to prove Maganga’s name is Helton. An enormous stinking mountain of crap. Litterally nothing from where it should come from (Mombasa not Nairobi not Auckland not Ghent).

Third.
Instead of isulting and then playing mister nice guy you might as well start answering some questions. Or if this seems insulting to your highness the master patriot of convicted fraudsters,

Fourth.
Shut up.

and enjoy Santo Domingo


307 posted on 03/06/2010 2:06:00 PM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: butterdezillion; InspectorSmith
“Maybe if you could just give us an address (at YouTube, did you say?) where somebody could look at what you’ve already explained and summarize what’s there, it would clear up what’s already been gone over.”

See:

http://www.youtube.com/user/InspectorSmith

There are long Obot-infested comment threads for each video, especially the original video revealing a blurry copy of the BC in an unspecified third-world neighborhood.

The top Youtube page comments have highly informative near daily posts by bsteadman1 on recent news related to Obama. eligibility and comments and updates by Lucas Smith and several regulars. Smith tolerates pointed troll questions briefly letting them air their issues but zots them once they persist after they have been responded to.

308 posted on 03/06/2010 2:08:29 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Has Smith ever answered any of the questions I asked in # 299?


309 posted on 03/06/2010 2:23:14 PM PST by woofie
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To: butterdezillion

KenyanBCPunkster is his handle.


310 posted on 03/06/2010 2:26:22 PM PST by Natural Born 54
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To: hoosiermama

It’s situations like this one with Kenya that bring to mind George Washington’s warning about foreign entanglements and how our nation should avoid those completely. International commerce ought to be encouraged but not devolve into the kind of military/political situation we now have in Kenya or Saudi Arabia. I don’t view either nation as a true friend of ours.

Why did our founders not want us involved in foreign adventures? Because no one can predict the future and the results are uncontrollable. That is particularly so when when we’ve ignored or overlooked a pertinent fact: in this case, Kenya has a large Muslim population. The possibilities exist for intelligence compromise or, even worse, a doublecross.

We’ve also treated Saudi Arabia as a ‘valued’ ally in the War on Terror and have overlooked their less friendly activities in our nation and abroad. This has been to our detriment. There are Islamic Centers in the U.S. which have proved to be providing cover for Al Qaeda activities. We now know that Prince Alaweed paid for Obama’s Harvard education and that millions of dollars of money poured into Obama’s campaign in 2008 from foreign sources in Africa and the Middle East. The Saudis have a political/religous agenda completely at odds with our belief in liberty and equality for all.

We don’t need just a change in our government’s leadership: we need to change how the military, CIA, and State Department operates overseas.


311 posted on 03/06/2010 2:28:04 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: STARWISE

You’re very welcome.


312 posted on 03/06/2010 2:28:43 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Seizethecarp
T.Y., I'll have to grapple my head around this too. Boy, oh boy, today has thrown me more than a few bones to chew on.

No wonder the ‘STOLEN WON’ is publicly decrying not to question his citizenship.

313 posted on 03/06/2010 2:45:08 PM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Yahoooooo Now all we gotta do is get hold of Obama’s foot !!!!!!!!!!!!! And then make it smaller. and compare.! And get him to step in some ink too .... come on everyone let’s put our heads together and come up with a plan.

I know a great attorney slash dentist who can handle this for us!!!!
314 posted on 03/06/2010 2:49:55 PM PST by Guns are GOOD
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To: InspectorSmith

Am I correct in my understanding that the original of the hospital birth certificate that you obtained is now in safekeeping with a court in California?


315 posted on 03/06/2010 2:54:28 PM PST by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: Natural Born 54; DoctorBulldog; Fred Nerks; BP2

IIRC it was Fred and bp that did most of the findings and postings...It’s all there including background on the DR and his business card.

Probably could find it by using a search engine...If you really want the details.

IIRC every questionale aspect in the probe was answered in the affirmative.


316 posted on 03/06/2010 3:15:41 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: SatinDoll

You betcha


317 posted on 03/06/2010 3:25:48 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

IT STARTS WITH AN EXPLANATION OF THE DATE FORMAT USED ON THE DOCUMENT, EXPLAINS THE PHONETIC SPELLING OF THE NAME HELTON/HELTAN MAGANGA, AND SHOWS THAT THE DOCTOR WAS A PEDIATRICAN:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2040486/posts?page=8934#8934

I PLACED THE DETAILS ON THE LONG THREAD SO THEY WOULDN’T GET LOST, WILL REPRODUCE THEM HERE:

“In England, and English colonies and commonwealths, they typically date things: dd/mm/yyyy.” True, but on a hunch, when this was first released, I may have been the first person to find on the Wiki international date format page that Kenya is one of the few countries in the world that was listed as regularly using BOTH formats.

The original source data (from memory) came from IBM software manuals that were used to set up computer software formats by country around the world.

An Obot named Mystylplx immediately edited the Wiki page, but was reversed and locked for a time, but now all specific references to Kenya using two formats have disappeared from the text of the page except for the world map, which may have been harder for the Obot scrubbers to edit.

Kenya is still color-coded purple on the world map as a dual format country at this site:

WIKI ENTRY

There is a ready explanation for two formats in the fact that Kenya, when founded, was formed by the merger of two separate legal entities, Kenya Colony and Coast Province, which may well have used two different formats in their separate clerical cultures.

COMMENT SOURCE

8,934 posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:54:28 AM by Fred Nerks
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To: Seizethecarp; bgill
FOR THE RECORD:

“Administrators and doctors there told WND sources that in 2004 a high-level team of Kenya’s National Security Intelligence Service came to the hospital and seized all files containing birth certificate documents from the years 1960 through 1963.”

Same thing happened in Indonesia:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/obamas-mop-up-m.html

THE KENYA BIRTH CERTIFICATE BEGINS TO APPEAR MORE LIKE THE REAL THING!

8,935 posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:59:08 AM by Fred Nerks
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RE THE KENYA DOCUMENT:

It was further maintained that Dr James ANGAWA was only involved in Tuberculosis research:

PDF
I. THE B.C.G. VACCINATION CAMPAIGN IN KENYA
JELLIFFE and ANGAWA J Trop Pediatr.1966; 12: 7-8

http://tropej.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/12/supp3/7

TROPICAL PEDIATRICS!

http://tropej.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/pdf_extract/12/supp3/7

SESSION 1. PRACTICAL IMMUNIZATION.

James O.W. Ang’awa, a PEDIATRICIAN, discusses the IMMUNIZATION OF SCHOOL CHILDREN.

HE WAS A PEDAITRICIAN. Stike Two!

8,936 posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 4:06:16 PM by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/612678/-/ukb32e/-/index.html

By MWAKERA MWAJEFA Posted Thursday, June 18 2009 at 22:31

“...Coast Provincial General Hospital chief administrator, Dr Heltan Maganga, said the first patient was diagnosed on June 1 and died the following day...”

IT WAS MAINTAINED DR HELTAN MAGANGA WAS NOT THERE WHEN THE DOCUMENT WAS RAISED IN JUNE 2009.

STRIKE THREE!


318 posted on 03/06/2010 3:49:36 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: Mik Taerg
A wise man told me to believe half of what I read and none of what I hear.

I would not advise believing every document you have listed as to who was speaking as Chief Administrator. The reporters make mistakes. They may call a hospital for a reaction to a story, and get the wrong name in print. That is why newspapers have correction in them every day.

319 posted on 03/06/2010 4:17:53 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Fred Nerks; PA-RIVER; Seizethecarp; WhizCodger; LucyT

Strikes???? Are you sure????

1. “Coast Provincial General Hospital chief administrator Helton Muganga also expressed willingness to assist in investigations.”

Written by Kenyan reporter Kepher Otieno. Date: 08.12.2009

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/archives/InsidePage.php?id=1144021260&cid=459

2. “The Chief Administrator at Coast General Hospital Helton Maganga, said he expects the number of patients to rise.”

Written by Kenyan reporter Willis Oketch. Date: 06.19.2009

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/archives/InsidePage.php?id=1144017299&cid=159

3. ““We have counselled the mother and she is now in in good health and spirits since yesterday started breastfeeding the baby,” the chief administrator at the hospital, Dr Helton Maganga said.”

Written by Kenyan reporter ANTHONY KITIMO. Date: 10.02.2009

http://www.nation.co.ke/Mombasa/-/519978/666878/-/naqvmh/-/index.html

4. “”We are still receiving more patients from various parts of the province who have been diagnosed with the ailment. However, we are doing everything possible to provide the necessary treatment needed,” Helton Maganga, chief administrator at the Coast Provincial General Hospital, the largest referral hospital in the province, told IRIN on 18 June.”

Written by BY IRIN (Integrated Regional Information Network for Central and Eastern Africa. Date: 06.18.2009

http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=84901

Note all are spelled HELTON. Number one (#1) also has complete DIFFERENT spelling of Helton Maganga’s last name as “Muganga”.

In Swahili names are spelled out phonetically. You’ll find that in many places in Africa there is no standard spelling for names, especially when Swahili word and names are spelled out with the Indo-European alphabet. Swahili never had a written form of it’s language until Arabs taught Swahili speakers to spell out Swahili in Arabic and then later when Europeans taught Swahili speakers to spell out Swahili in the Indo-European alphabet.

In any case we now see that Great Kim’s aka Mik Taerg’s claims of there only being ONE (1) source for the spelling of HELTON is totally without merit (yet is typical of any claim that Great Kim aka Mik Taerg has ever put out in his quest for recoginition).

Thank you.


320 posted on 03/06/2010 5:28:46 PM PST by InspectorSmith
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