Posted on 09/27/2009 10:19:41 AM PDT by wagglebee
New guidance has been issued to clarify the law on assisted suicide in England and Wales - but it offers no guarantees against prosecution.
Instead the Director of Public Prosecutions has spelled out the range of factors that will be taken into account when deciding on cases.
The move has been welcomed by 33 year old Kelly Taylor from Bristol who is terminally ill.
In 2005 she tried to starve herself in the hope she would end her pain.
"I think the new guidelines are a breakthrough, as it gives people the knowledge when and where they're going wrong and when they could be prosecuted. It also gives people like me greater patient choice."
(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...
***So you make up rumors to support the false claims against Catholics? That’s stupid.***
Check my posting record and then check the whining of the Catholics on this thread. That’s not stupid. The claims in this case are not false. That is sickening.
You included me, Narses and Wagglebee in your false accusation. None of us are guilty. You just made it up.
Let us look at the entire post 43.
***To: wagglebee; goat granny
***Some freepers cannot hold a discussion without calling in their posse to help defend them...
No newbie, some FReepers just realize that there are other FReepers who are interested in certain topics. This IS a PRO-LIFE forum, that issue IS NOT up for debate.***
Either human life is sacred or else it isn’t. It is no mistake that those who oppose abortion AND capital punishment AND euthanasia are consistent and following the commands of Christ at least in that way. Those who only support one or two out of the three are hypocrites and when they post that hypocrisy on a public forum, they can and should be called out.
*** If you don’t agree with them, well, your just going to hell and they are psychic about you based on a few comments made.
No, there are some pro-death trolls on here with long standing records.***
Advocating killing people is a significant comment. If you are going to commit suicide, then do so without fuss or publicity or any of the narcissistic crap that so often accompanies the (usually) non feat. Attempted starvation in 2005? Bushwa. If this idiot wanted commit suicide, that would have been accomplished.
Starving a helpless human being to death and calling it merciful is worse than immoral. It is criminal both in the eyes of men and of God. Jesus taught us to have mercy on our fellow man and to help the helpless, not to kill them like unwanted kittens.
***Their threads are usually good for a insight into the fringe of pseudo Christians.
So, you consider OPPOSING euthanasia to be a “pseud-Christian” position? If that is the case you have a serious misunderstanding of what Christianity is.***
Let us see you put your “orthodox Christian beliefs (whatever they are)” into practice.
43 posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 5:04:18 PM by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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If you didn’t realize, the asterisks are quotes from the previous post from wagglebee.
I used those quotes as a basis for addressing both him and (mostly) you. I stand by my statements about euthanasia being very anti Christian.
***You included me, Narses and Wagglebee in your false accusation. None of us are guilty. You just made it up.***
Riiiiight. No more whining.
Perfect!
Did you at any point have something to say, or have you just been rude for the sake of being rude? I’m still wondering what you’ve been whining about.
***Did you at any point have something to say, or have you just been rude for the sake of being rude? I’m still wondering what you’ve been whining about.***
Post as best as you can about the Faith and do not screw around whinging about the rules and posting and rules of the forums. There are enough of our separated friends that do that and bring up this on a regular basis. If they can do it, they sidetrack their discussions towards Catholics whining about the rule.
Let’s stick to debating theology, where we can obviously win.
Free will should never overshadow the value of life and existence. Why is it that they don’t see it’s not all about them?
They are going to court and this leads to Passive and involuntary euthansia for those after them. It lessens the quality of all life.
Interesting that she couldn’t starve herself in 2005 because of the pain, isn’t it?
Did you notice all the women seemed to have husbands or companions?
One need only look at (as you say), Hitler and others, the Groningen Protocol (when they wanted to euthanize up to twelve years old), and the two false cases that have caused tens of millions of deaths in this country because of an agenda re: abortion (btw, neither had an abortion and are leaders in the pro-life movement). Now we have overwhelmed single mothers, abuse, child traffic and rape (look at the reaction of Polanski, Letterman, even by ‘feminists’), it’s a truly mad world.
We see fathers that don’t take responsibility, why should they... the state will get rid of ‘it’ or send them a check... it’s on the woman. I know old vets I discussed this with (don’t know why, maybe because MSNBC was on in the VA pharmacy or something), and guys broke down about some Thai they left with a kid or maybe leaving someone pregnant... i’m talking 60-70 year old guys.
It’s a hard thing being in pain or seeing your loved one in pain.
But there are lessons to be learned in this life, sacrifice, the chance to reconcile and set things right, to inspire others and bring mercy forth from hard hearts.
If everyone felt this way (self), we wouldn’t have cops, firemen, medical professionals, teachers or public servants.
Without suffering, we cannot truly know what joy and beauty is. Easy to say, i’ve been through the situation many times in my family, hard in the position.
I’ve been on youtube occasionally and witnessed some of the most crass, godless comments ever re: life; I ask where they’re from, nine out of ten Europe and they are ‘atheists’ or ‘enlightened scientists/greens’.
I notice that the Peter Singers, Holdrens, Emanuels, Kohs, Felos and other ‘engineers’ are quite alive and don’t volunteer.
I wasn’t the one whining. You’ve been whining for several posts. All I did was make a statement of fact about my observations. What that has to do with being Catholic still escapes me.
Who in your family has died this way? Or are you scared you’ll be in a helpless position and would rather die?
Have you ever made the decision to unplug a loved one?
They are given the death plenty without a chance to speak out. Very inhumane of these people!
“Once healthcare workers and doctors get used to killing their patients instead of trying to save them, you are going to start running into plenty of problems—such as killing people because the government is running a deficit and wants to save money.”
We already have. The Oregon Health Plan will not pay to treat certain diseases, but will pay the costs involved for the victim to commit suicide.
They are a lot like Islamofascists, they just want to kill everyone else.
The last time I got on one of these absolute moral )whatever) it was about a 9 year old child in Brazil (?) who had an abortion. She was the victim of incest and pregnant with twins..The doctors told the mother she would not survive the carry of twins and delivery at her age and weight....Those same people on this thread Wagglebee etc. found that the mother and doctor were murders for giving this 9 year old an abortion...That's when I decided I am not fringe pro-life, I am anti abortion, and even the Catholic church makes room for such cases....
These people on the absolute moral ping sound at times like no true Christian I have ever known... I apologize to you personally if you are not one of them.
If you are one of them.....thats not my problem....Have a great week-end.....
If you are going to use my name in an accusatory way you could at least have the decency to ping me.
I MIGHT have pinged one of the threads on the Brazilian girl, but to the best of my knowledge I NEVER made any comments on it.
even the Catholic church makes room for such cases....
ONLY when the mother's life is at stake.
I recall the case but not all the details.
Hard to say. The Catholic Church would support an abortion if it was absolutely clear that the alternative was for the mother and both babies to die.
I don’t know if that was the case or not. Giving birth by a nine year old isn’t easy, obviously but it has been done. It seems possible to me, although obviously I don’t have the medical expertise, that the child could have had a caesarian and the babies, although premature, might have been saved and then given for adoption.
The instances where an abortion is truly necessary to save the life of a mother are much rarer than the abortion supporters would like us to think.
I don't remember all the posts, but some were disgusting. One person replied (and I agreed with him/her) that an abortion for that child was simply self defense....Talk about flame wars, that thread was horrible...When I use the term posse for some of these people, I mean it...they have to call in all those that agree with them to use character assassination on their enemy...Defiantly remind me of the Saul Alininsky leftist school of assault....
‘What is so sad to me is that she truly feels that she has nothing to give. That it is just better to shut it down since she is going to die anyway.
Well, we are all going to die anyway, so should we shut it down early so we don’t have any pain or suffering? It’s only okay to live if everything goes exactly the way we want it?
Since I believe in God then I have to believe in life. Because He created me then there has to be more to me than just a good day today.
Maybe all we can do if pray for her and others like her and work as hard as we can so that euthanasia is never passed as a federal law here. There are already states that allow assisted suicide and that’s just the start of that slope.’
Well stated...
euthanasia is evil as is abortion...No law like this should ever be passed!!
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