[SvenMagnussen]

California attorney Orly Taitz, the president of the Defend Our Freedoms Foundation,
stands on the steps of the Columbus federal courthouse Friday with what she claims is a copy of a
birth certificate for President Barack Obama from Mombass, British Protectorate of Kenya.

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[Diogenesis]

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[TexasCajun]

You go girl!!

[Faith]

“Who has the burden of establishing that the president of the United States is not eligible to serve in his office?” Land asked Taitz.

The judge pointed out that burden fell on Rhodes because she sought the restraining order to stop her deployment.

Fine. Let's roll.

[Labyrinthos]

Can someone please explain to me the legal basis for the lawsuit? Seems to me that unless the deployment order came directly from the TOTUS or at his request, Maj. Ausprug is obligated to follow the deployment order or risk a dishonorable discharge and perhaps imprisonment.

[Red Steel]

Maj. Rebecca Ausprung, with the Department of the Army, Litigation Division in Washington, told Land this case was about Rhodes, not Obama.

Completely wrong major.

The case is to determine if Obama can legitimately hold presidential office under the US Constitution Natural Born Citizen clause. If Obama is not a legitimate US President, than he cannot be the Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces, and therefore cannot lawfully give orders for the military to follow.

[Diogenesis]

The check off for Obama on natural citizenship was conveniently REMOVED.

[SpaceBar]

As much as I admire Orly Taitz’s tenacity, I find myself wondering if her flamboyant courtroom drama queen tactics aren't counter productive. Yes, the birth certificate controversy is important, but the central issue is that Barrack Obama hasn't adequately demonstrated his eligibility to hold the office of President to the American people. The recent revelations of doctored documents attesting to Obama’s candidacy signed by Nancy Pelosi only further cast doubt on his constitutional eligibility vetting.

[TigersEye]

0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.

Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.

0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.

Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.

[normanpubbie]

No one has mentioned the most salient facts from the hearing. Quoting the article,

In her final argument, Taitz asked Land why she had to prove a “Kenyan birth certificate” she submitted as evidence was authentic, yet her opponents didn’t have to prove Obama had an authentic United States birth certificate.

“Who has the burden of establishing that the president of the United States is not eligible to serve in his office?” Land asked Taitz.

The judge pointed out that burden fell on Rhodes because she sought the restraining order to stop her deployment.

And at the bottom of the article, it turns out that CPT Rhodes was at the hearing as the judge had ordered on Friday:

Under questioning from Land, Rhodes said she had not declined any other orders since Obama became president.

“If Sen. McCain would have won, would you be objecting to deployment to Iraq?” the judge asked. Rhodes said no.

Land then asked the question another way: If President George W. Bush still was the commander in chief, would she be fighting the deployment?
“No, sir,” Rhodes answered.

Also, the judge chastized Orly Taitz:

“Whenever I give you a minute, you go off on these talking points,” Land said.

“We have not seen Mr. Obama’s birth certificate,” Taitz responded.

“This is not a forum to lay ground work for a press conference,” Land said. “This is a court of law.”

It doesn't look like the judge will issue the TRO, much less rule that Obama has to produce the birth certificate.

[Quix]

Thanks.

[mojitojoe]

[Pilsner]

Hey Birthers. Ever notice that the attorneys in these cases seem to be either (1) the victims of a mass conspiracy to thwart their righteous lawsuits, or (2) grossly incompetent?

Now I certainly think the correct answer is # 2. But tell me, is there a possibility # 3? Can Orly really not have yet "figgered out" that she has the burden of proof in the cases she brings?

Could this be an "Operation Trust" situation. Never heard of the Operation Trust? When the Communists took over Russia, after WWI, they faced considerable internal resistance. Rather than immediately crush every opposition group, or emigre group, the Communists set up the Monarchist Union of Central Russia.

The MUCR became an umbrella group for anti-Communist activists, which allowed the Communists to monitor and control, and when they were strong enough to eliminate, their opponents. Vast sums of money were donated to MUCR, which meant donated to the very Communists the donors were trying to overthrow, and anti-Communist agents were methodically identified, and either killed or turned.

Could Obama's people be that devious? Maybe. Certainly the Birther attorneys are the Washington Generals of the legal profession. Is BO just lucky in that regards, or he making his own luck? Is it all a conspiracy?

I don't think it is a conspiracy. I think that if there was anything remotely approaching a case there, Free Republic's own Congressman Billy Bob would litigating away. He is not, and neither is any other attorney 1/10 as good as a below average, semi-literate, felon filing lawsuits from some maximum security prison.

But if you just have to believe in a conspiracy, this one at least explains (1) why BO would rather keep this going, than release his longform birth certificate, and (2) why the attorneys "suing" him stumble from one fiasco to another.

[Tennessee Nana]

BTTT

[plenipotentiary]

““Who has the burden of establishing that the president of the United States is not eligible to serve in his office?” Land asked Taitz.”

All Rhodes has to do is disobey the Army order. If they Court Martial her, then the burden of proof falls on Obama. Game over, cos he can’t produce a US birth certificate. The Judge can be as pernickety as he wants, but he should know that this case is going to keep coming back to him till Obama fails to prove his Natural Born Citizen status. Moreover, the chain of command is criminalising itself, if they have good reason to believe that their orders are from an illegal source.