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Somebody tell me the difference, please?
1 posted on 08/09/2009 8:10:49 PM PDT by Gordon Greene
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To: Gordon Greene

Good grief. What a bunch of twaddle.


2 posted on 08/09/2009 8:15:37 PM PDT by Z80_Inside
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To: GodGunsGuts; Fichori; metmom; OneVike

Please include yourselves in the debate if you wish... and invite friends. I want to know what they really think about Darwin.


5 posted on 08/09/2009 8:19:35 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: Gordon Greene

Hellish pretty much sums it up. Lock and load people.


6 posted on 08/09/2009 8:29:59 PM PDT by mkcc30 (Their lying tongues will become their nooses.)
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To: Gordon Greene

Pure tripe.
Got the Nazi = evolutionist point right in the title this time. Didn’t even wait for the minions to do it.

Evolution is perfectly compatible with Christianity.


7 posted on 08/09/2009 8:34:33 PM PDT by Wacka
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To: Gordon Greene

Soylent Green . . . the shape of things to come


8 posted on 08/09/2009 8:43:27 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: Gordon Greene
Answer: Adolph Hitler (Now tell me how that differs from Darwin’s survival of the fittest mentality?)

You are mistaking the sociopolitical strategy of eugenics with the scientific theory of evolution.

Eugenics is the desire to kill your enemies under the defense of improving the culture.

Evolution is the scientific theory that those creatures who die before reproducing cannot pass on their genes, and therefore only those who survive the destructive pressures of their environment do, in fact, pass on their genes, and as a result, the only genes left have been "naturally selected" for survival.

In other words, evolutionary theory is merely the observation of a fact so simple it cannot be discarded - even by anti-evolutionists, because dead things don't reproduce, while genetic change occurs with every birth.

The extent of the influence of the evolutionary process, on the other hand, can be easily argued, because science itself cannot show such the evolution mechanism as adequate to explain many of the developments that are pointed to by anti-evolutionists.

Eugenics merely uses evolutionary concepts piecemeal to serve a collectivist agenda that seeks the authority to exterminate those who would challenge the ruling elite. In this, the link between eugenics and evolution is fraudulent, because eugenics is not scientific - any eugenics selection process is completely biased by the motives of the power group which desires it's use as justification for mass murder.

10 posted on 08/09/2009 8:54:52 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Gordon Greene

The difference between what you are doing and pimping your blog? Nothing.


11 posted on 08/09/2009 8:58:36 PM PDT by stormer
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To: Gordon Greene
Somebody tell me the difference, please?

Why? You're lack of knowledge didn't stop you from writing the article.

21 posted on 08/09/2009 9:27:55 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Gordon Greene

It’s the same with zerrhoid’s science czar, I think I heard several people that mentioned something about kids not being human until what....?

They’re 3 years old, according to this flake?

You just can’t make this stuff up!

This is what happens when God is stomped out of education and science is sterlized of all things intelligent, designed and moral...just so liberals won’t get their feelings hurt over the multiple God-hang-ups and tender secular humanist sensibilities.

Congratulations liberals, for further destroying what’s left of the country! :(


23 posted on 08/09/2009 9:46:34 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: Gordon Greene

Congratulations. In 26 posts, you’ve managed to attract 3 spitwads (generalized criticism with no specifics and no support), 3 personal attacks, and 1 diversion attempt.


27 posted on 08/09/2009 10:38:09 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
What Darwin actually said — ping
31 posted on 08/09/2009 10:50:41 PM PDT by Fichori (Make a liberal cry.... Donate -> https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/ <-)
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To: Gordon Greene

“If you love The Origin of the Species, embrace it! Call Australian Aborigines, Blacks and Indians what your father called them… SAVAGES!”

The Declaration of Independence calls Native Americans “merciless Indian savages.”


36 posted on 08/10/2009 12:26:22 AM PDT by slimemold (Ewigkeitschaueren)
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To: Gordon Greene
“If you love The Origin of the Species, embrace it! Call Australian Aborigines, Blacks and Indians what your father called them… SAVAGES!”

On that note, read this interesting article: Darwin and the Fuegians. Concerning this, David Stove writes in Darwinian Fairytales:

When Darwin first encountered the Yahgan Indians in their homeland of Tierra del Fuego, he was thunderstruck. 'I could not have believed how wide was the difference between savage and civilised man: it is greater than between a wild and [a] domesticated animal, inasmuch as in man there is a greater power of improvement.' But in fact Darwin was mistaken about the Yahgans: indeed, just about as completely mistaken as it would have been possible to be. We know this from the testimony of a man who was born and spent most of his life among them. This was Lucas Bridges, whose parents were Christian missionaries to die Yahgans, and the first white settlers in Tierra del Fuego, only a few decades after the Beagle's visit.

41 posted on 08/10/2009 2:27:30 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Gordon Greene

“If you love The Origin of the Species, embrace it! Call Australian Aborigines, Blacks and Indians what your father called them… SAVAGES!”

—I’d rather speaketh 21rst century American English than mid 19th century British English, but thanketh thou anyway.

“Somebody tell me the difference, please?”

—Sure. First I’ll mention where most Darwinists, Hitler, and most Creationists are in agreement: They agree that diseases, maladies, and harmful mutations are spread via genes. They also agree that the spread of many such genes can be checked via selective breeding. The difference is - what do we do with this information?
Darwin, like most Darwinists and Creationists believed that “if we were intentionally to neglect the weak and helpless, it could only be for a contingent benefit, with an overwhelming present evil” and that “Nor could we check our sympathy, even at the urging of hard reason, without deterioration in the noblest part of our nature.”

Hitler, OTOH, believed otherwise. But not because of Darwinism. In fact, Hitler believed in intelligent design and that speciation was impossible. He believed that change could occur, but only within kinds through selective breeding, just as modern Creationists argue.
(For more details see my post here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2259552/posts?page=43#43)


51 posted on 08/10/2009 8:33:27 AM PDT by goodusername
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To: Gordon Greene

Please expain why you disagree with the following statements you posted. Thank you.

“With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one up to the last moment. ..”

“Vaccination has preserved thousands who from a weak constitution would formerly have suc-cumbed to smallpox. Thus, the weak members of civilized societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man....”

“ Excepting in the case of man himself, hardly anyone is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.”

“[Yet,] the aid which we feel impelled to give to the help¬less is mainly an incidental result of the [otherwise good] instinct of sympathy...”

“We must therefore bear the undoubtedly bad effects of the weak surviving and propagating their kind...”


82 posted on 08/10/2009 5:34:30 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: Gordon Greene
Somebody tell me the difference, please?

"“With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one up to the last moment. ..”

136 posted on 08/10/2009 6:50:14 PM PDT by ColdWater
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