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To: jveritas

jveritas is a troll. Kenya became independent on December 12, 1963. Incredibly the 1964 date is beginning to show up on internet sources already this morning! Is this some type of leftist reaction to this document? Double check your source if you are convinced by the misinformation. Are they going to rewrite independence date of an entire nation of people? Maybe no one there will remember? Why don’t you change the date on the Declaration of Independence to July 4, 1777 while your at it?

http://africanhistory.about.com/b/2008/12/12/kenya-achieves-independence-12-december-1963.htm


2,275 posted on 08/02/2009 11:53:03 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15

jveritas is emphatically NOT a troll.


2,285 posted on 08/02/2009 11:54:27 AM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: fireman15

jveritas is a long-time poster and not a troll. I think the point he was trying to make was that while Kenya became independent at the end of 1963, it didn’t declare itself a republic until the end of 1964.

My feeling is that it had to be known as something in the interim, and since it planned to be a republic, it may have referred to itself that way in internal documents, regardless of the fact that it wasn’t “official.” The only way to prove it either way would be to find an official Kenyan document from that same period.


2,296 posted on 08/02/2009 11:57:39 AM PDT by livius
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To: fireman15
jveritas is a troll. Kenya became independent on December 12, 1963. Incredibly the 1964 date is beginning to show up on internet sources already this morning! Is this some type of leftist reaction to this document? Double check your source if you are convinced by the misinformation. Are they going to rewrite independence date of an entire nation of people? Maybe no one there will remember? Why don’t you change the date on the Declaration of Independence to July 4, 1777 while your at it? http://africanhistory.about.com/b/2008/12/12/kenya-achieves-independence-12-december-1963.htm

Your own link admits that Kenya wasn't a republic until a full year after independence, confirming what Jveritas said. Guess you owe him an apology for calling him a troll.

"Independence was achieved in 1963, and a republic was declared in 1964."
2,310 posted on 08/02/2009 12:00:05 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: fireman15
Incredibly the 1964 date is beginning to show up on internet sources already this morning!

LOL... I cannot stop laughing. This is really sad that someone can reach this level of stupidity. Have mercy on me fireman15 and do not tell the admins that I am troll (extreme sarcasm). LOL....

2,311 posted on 08/02/2009 12:00:23 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: fireman15; jveritas
jveritas is a troll.

You should check first and and open your big mouth only after careful consideration. Jveritas is a very careful investigator and this isn't about beliefs but facts. So, the anti side is more important than the pro side in the process of vetting this document. Folks are trying to establish if there is an error in this document.

WND says that is is the same as document from this period. Obviously we would like to see evidence of this, such as a comparable B.C. in the same date period. But, calling old hands here a troll is the mark of someone who is really non-serious. My recommendation is a public apologia accompanied by groveling.

2,435 posted on 08/02/2009 12:24:56 PM PDT by dalight
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To: fireman15

yea, jveritas is 100% legit. I would trust him with my kids I think. The 1964 date may well be a deliberate misstatement. There are all sorts of things like that planted in the internet to confuse people. Some are genuine mistakes like the 1964 date, but they can be checked on and verified.

JV is one of the very good guys! :)


2,448 posted on 08/02/2009 12:27:54 PM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: fireman15

j veritas is a very hard working Freeper who translated Iraqi documents. Please apologize to him.


2,462 posted on 08/02/2009 12:31:20 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: fireman15; jveritas

I haven’t seen enough of this thread to understand the conversation, I just caught your post.

jveritas is definitely not a troll. You should do your homework before opening your yap with that kind of insult.


2,712 posted on 08/02/2009 1:22:00 PM PDT by Gator113 (It's about stupidity, stupid. IMPEACH HERE, IMPEACH NOW.)
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To: fireman15; jveritas

Jveritas is NOT a troll. Far from it.

For your information, he provided valuable
information for the USA translating the
documents from Saddam.

Like many, he probably didn’t read all
the connected info posted.


4,011 posted on 08/02/2009 6:44:40 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: fireman15; jveritas

And BTW, he is a treasured FReeper.


4,013 posted on 08/02/2009 6:45:16 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: fireman15; jveritas

You might want to pause before you question JV? JV is the Best of the Best and You should ever be half as good as JV!
JV has more knowledge and FREEPER Knowledge on the Tip of His Little Finger than You can hope to achieve in years:-)


4,042 posted on 08/02/2009 6:56:56 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: fireman15
jveritas is a troll.

He might be wrong (though I wouldn't bet on it) but he is not a troll.

4,128 posted on 08/02/2009 7:29:12 PM PDT by TChad
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