Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Stanley Anne *did* finish her fall quarter courses.
Her parents were not “straitlaced,” they were swingers and radical Communists.
Good morning, afraidfortherepublic.
How are you feeling today?
I’ve heard the vancouver connection before. shouldn’t be to hard to check the records in the vancouver hospitals.
trouble with this theory is that there is no record of ann going up to vancouver.
then again there is no record of ann giving birth in washington state either.
the hawaii hospitals for that matter won’t say anything.
In 1980 Stanley Ann filed pleading with an Hawaqiian court for divorce from Lolo Soetoro, listing TWO children Lolo was responsible to support, one a minor (Maya) the other over eighteen (Barry). Lolo adopted Barry, naming him Barry Soetoro. In 1980, Barry was still legally Barry Soetoro because his mother entered him as Lolo's responsibility then.
Barry graduated from High School in June 1979 and entered Occi in August 1979, as Barry Soetoro by the legal pleading his mother made. But that was a nice try at obfuscation, Plum.
Barack Obama was a ‘nom de plume’ for his writing, not his everyday name to be called by friends and professors. It would be later, when he really bought into the mythos his growing narcissism fabricated that he took the nom de plume as the real. But we have no documentation showing he ever legally ended Barry Soetoro in favor of Barack Obama.
But what about missing her period ???
That’sa why I said she was ignorant ...
Either she had irregular periods..or didnt know much if she was “late”
especially if she had been drugged or drug in order too z’performZ” during the “episodes” and didnt know what had been done to her...
And then again there is the fairy tale that still prevails today...
“Ya cant get pregnant the first time ya do “it”...
and maybe not even the 2nd or 3rd...
Yeah well.....
You think the “no boyfriends in high school” may have been just that ???
No boys, but plenty of men her Dad’s age and aquantance ???
You’re making the assumption that Stanley Anne was honest in the court filing. That is by no means a sure thing, since the woman was an inveterate liar. But I did allow for the possibility there was an Indonesian name change from Soetoro to Obama that didn’t void a possible Indonesia adoption. As I pointed out, this could have happened only if Dunham had close connections to the Indonesian government at the time. Hope this helps.
PS. You assert that “Lolo adopted Barry.” When, exactly did this happen? And where? Was this in Hawaii, or in Indonesia? Do you have some special knowledge you’re not sharing?
Well missing her period is the first clue, but not always the definitive clue. But only the woman knows about that — not her friends, lovers, or parents.
In 1960 the doctor didn’t even want to see you until you had missed 2 periods. Then, they’d poke and probe you, do a little test that only the doctor could do (no at home tests in 1960), disappear into the back room for a while and come out smiling to say, “Congratulations Mrs. So & So, you are sitting on a nest!”
At least that’s how my doctor informed me that my oldest was on the way. It was up to me to decide when to announce it to others.
As for your second premise — there are a lot of people walking around who are the result of a first time encounter.
Stanley Ann and Lolo were marrie din hawaii. His adoption fo aBarry occurred in Hawaii so he could bring him to Indonesia as his adopted son. At the time, do you know what passport he traveled to Indonesia on, because he had to have his own at that time? ... That’s waht I thought, you’re spinning a web.
No.... I think Anne was a virgin when Frank initiated her, just like the story Frank told in SEX REBEL BLACK.
I do think it’s at least even money Stanley Armour Dunham knew exactly what was happening. . .
David, I’ve been trying to access the first Code for the State of Virginia wherein Jefferson, IIRC, wrote Virginia’s first citizenship laws about 1776-77. So far everything I’ve found has been behind paywalls. Do you happen to have access to them somewhere? If so, would you be interested in quoting from the Codes relating to Virginia’s categories of citizenship at birth and by naturalization? As I recall, there were same persons who remained aliens even when born in Virginia as the Code was first written, whereas New York adopted the English common-law jus soli doctrine in its first state constitution.
Lolo didn’t “bring Barry as his adopted son to Indonesia.” Lolo went to Indonesia a year before Anne and Barry did. By the time Anne and Barry got to Indonesia, Lolo was off to Malaysia to work for Mobil and she was shacked up with some other dude.
There’s no verified record of Hawaiian adoption as of yet. Barry could have been adopted by Lolo either in Hawaii or Indonesia or both. A Hawaii adoption would not have necessarily necessitated a name change from Obama to Soetoro in Hawaii vital records files.
Barry could have traveled on Stanley Anne’s passport to Indonesia and then got his first Barry Soetoro passport once he got over there, while still maintaining a Barack Obama ID with Hawaii. If an adoption was done in Hawaii he could legally be Barry Obama, Indonesian there regardless of his Indo passport name.
He could have been Barry Obama, Indonesian in Hawaii, which raises the question if he was boarding at Punahou as a foreigner and not with his grandparents.
Did he stick with that at Occidental, or had he traded up to Barack Obama, African? He had obviously used the Kenyan passport by the time Obama Sr was assassinated in 1982.
“Barry could have traveled on Stanley Anne’s passport to Indonesia ...” WRONG.
“He had obviously used the Kenyan passport by the time Obama Sr was assassinated in 1982.” Source? Sheesh!
Sure he could... they were married when he was four.
In my law office, I have a better search engine but suspect I won't be able to get it there either.
Best bet is a law school library.
In my law office, I have a better search engine but suspect I won't be able to get it there either.
Best bet is a law school library.
Thank you.....
First Gibb’s bizarre DNA statement & now this find from BP2 (post #8961) & MHGinTN’s critical point that the question from the reporter was about townhall meetings.
Reporter: “The president campaigned on the notion that we could get beyond the ugly partisan warfare of the last sixteen years and that there could be rational discussion that could bring parties together. What happened to that? Why did the post partisan presidency not materialize?”
Gibbs actual quote in WH press briefing 8-12-09
“... I can’t tell you why somebody believes, despite all preponderance of the evidence, that the president was born umm ... in uh ... uh ... was born here and not somewhere else ...”
Rearranging a phrase (without changing the meaning of what he actually said), Gibbs just stated the following:
“...despite all preponderance of the evidence, I can’t tell you why somebody believes that the president was born umm ... in uh ... uh ... was born here and not somewhere else ...”
Of course we know Gibbs did not MEAN to say it, but like the DNA statement, it is what came out of his mouth.
Gibbs is becoming seriously, psychologically conflicted.
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