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Mom,' 'dad,' banned; now 600,000 students could go
WorldNetdaily.com ^ | February 07, 2008 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 02/08/2008 3:57:52 AM PST by Man50D

Only months after a new state law effectively banned "mom" and "dad" from California schools, a total of 600,000 students could follow because of what has been described as the "repudiation" of 2,000 years of Christian morality, according to leaders of a new campaign assembling education alternatives.

The campaign is called California Exodus, and is being headed by Ron Gleason, pastor of Grace Presbyterian Church in Yorba Linda, who said while the country excels in social, economic, scientific and political accomplishments, it "gets low grades on the education of its children."

The issue is the state legislature's adoption of Senate Bill 777, which requires only positive portrayals of homosexual, bisexual, transgender and other alternative lifestyle choices.

"First, the law allowed public schools to voluntarily promote homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality. Then, the law required public schools to accept homosexual, bisexual, and transsexual teachers as role models for impressionable children. Now, the law has been changed to effectively require the positive portrayal of homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality to six million children in California government-controlled schools," said Randy Thomasson, chief of the Campaign for Children and Families and one of those who originally called for an abandonment of public schools.

"To rescue their children, loving parents need to find an alternative to government schools, and every church needs to make it a priority to help parents be in charge of their children's education again," he said.

He has condemned public school districts as "no longer a safe emotional environment for children" under the new law, signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, that will introduce children as young as kindergarten to the homosexuality and other alternative lifestyle choices.

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KEYWORDS: californiaexodus; homeschoolingisgood; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; moralabsolutes; publiceducation; publicschool; publicschools; sb777
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To: wintertime

“fatherless kids, STDs, abortions, broken hearts, “walks of shame”, one night stands, broken marriage, divorces, child support payments, welfare checks, addictions, unnecessary depression, disappointments in false friendships, delinquencies, crime..etc.”

Good thing these don’t happen to people who never stop attending church. And of course it’s a terrible thing that returning to the fold doesn’t do you any good.

My point remains, there’s just no way that it’s true that 88 percent (BTW, I’ve now seen the figures 75, 80, 85, 88 and 90 percent, which is it?) of kids leave the church and never return. Churches would be shutting down left and right.


161 posted on 02/08/2008 2:17:13 PM PST by gracesdad
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To: AliVeritas

If a parent were to do that to a child, and a Liberal/Marxist government teacher, or Liberal/Marxist neighbor or relative, were to find out, the Child Protection Workers would soon be knocking at that parent’s door.

Who are the authors of today’s touted parenting methods? Answer: Well, the Liberal/Marxists and their Useful Idiots!

When today’s parenting methods fail, and the child does poorly in school as a result, who do the Liberal/Marxists teachers blame? Answer: The parents, of course!

Talk about a Catch 22!


162 posted on 02/08/2008 2:23:02 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: gracesdad

Churches would be shutting down left and right.

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I live in a red state now, and that is not happening in this community.

But,,,we did live in Maryland, and churches were shutting down left and right.


163 posted on 02/08/2008 2:26:52 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: stevio; wintertime

No, I am not affiliated with Rush in anyway but I’ve listened as much as I could over the last 17 years. He has a good track record of consistent conservative opinion.

I had no idea that there was a group of people called conservatives before I started listening to Rush. I think there are alot of people like me that had conservative view points but no exposure to conservative ideology.

Stevio, I know Rush discussed this when it was in the legislature and again when the Governer signed it.

Wintertime, man you need to chill out. I know Rush did not sponsor the bill or sign it. You need to focus your energy where the traiters really live.


164 posted on 02/08/2008 2:48:22 PM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: wintertime
So-called “good” teachers ( Christian and non-Christian) will continue whine about it at home, and (maybe) whisper a little in the teacher’s break room, BUT, they will cheerfully open the doors every morning, welcome the students, and **fully implement** an atheistic, barbaric, anti-Western Civilization curriculum that promotes a dangerous sexual lifestyle.

I don't want to get into a big argument but I don't do this and know no teachers who do unless they agree with those views. So how many demonstrations have you conducted. Have you put your job on the line or is that something only teachers are suppose to do. We can't even get parents to come in for a parent conference let alone organize a big demonstration. In short what have you done!!

165 posted on 02/08/2008 3:20:09 PM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: wintertime
My son strongly suspects that he lost his job because he let it slip that he was a Christian. The other members of his office (not Christian) suddenly became hostile and uncooperative.

LET IT SLIP???

Can we surmise that your son was sneaking and sly by trying to sneakily spread a little “salt and light” around while their bosses aren’t looking! ( What an example of “Christian” living they are!) ?

166 posted on 02/08/2008 4:07:16 PM PST by Amelia (Cynicism ON)
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To: The Pack Knight
Instead, children will be taught that sexual orientation and gender are merely a matter of personal choice," he said.

I thought the official position was that they are born perverted.

167 posted on 02/08/2008 4:15:23 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: The Pack Knight
Instead, children will be taught that sexual orientation and gender are merely a matter of personal choice," he said.

I thought the official position was that they are born perverted.

168 posted on 02/08/2008 4:15:34 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: Man50D
"If you want to use a restroom that matches your gender identity … you should be allowed to do so," the groups advise. "Whenever students are divided up into boys and girls, you should be allowed to join the group or participate in the program that matches your gender identity as much as possible."

I tried that with locker rooms. Didn't fly. Got busted. I had correctly identified the girls' gender, for sure.

169 posted on 02/08/2008 4:20:04 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: wintertime

“How did we get to the point that we think we must ask permission from the government to educate our children?”

Umm... Because we do?

What do I win?


170 posted on 02/08/2008 4:30:14 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Gabz

Wanna hear something funny? I homeschool my children, and I have started reading an hour a month at the public school across the street. *Gasp* The teachers there didn’t condemn me for it, I didn’t tell her public school is eviiiil and we had a grand time.


171 posted on 02/08/2008 4:34:22 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Amelia
Can we surmise that your son was sneaking and sly by trying to sneakily spread a little “salt and light” around while their bosses aren’t looking! ( What an example of “Christian” living they are!) ?
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Unlike too many in the teaching profession, my son **WAS** willing to lose his job for his religious principles.

My son will find other work. It likely will not be in government, and especially a not government school. He would never agree to teach children what he knew in his heart was false. He would never aid and assist others in doing teaching falsehood either.

The actual event that began all the hostility, was when he declined to contribute an office lottery ticket. That’s when it came out that in our religion, we don’t gamble or participate in the state lottery. It was downhill with the other non-Christian employees from there.

How liberally tolerant of these employees! Real diversity there! (sarc/off)

In time, maybe my son’s commitment and bravery to keep to his principles will be the very Christian example (true “salt and light”) that may bring a non-Christian from his old office to the Lord.

172 posted on 02/08/2008 4:40:30 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Poser
LoL,,funny guy!! ;)
173 posted on 02/08/2008 4:43:56 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime

True. It is pretty sad that we have to have government permission to educate our own kids, or in this case, keep the government from educating them.

We can teach them anything we want, but we have to have permission not to send them to government schools.

“It’s for the children!”


174 posted on 02/08/2008 4:46:46 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Aquinasfan; wintertime

It is amazing how many parents have heard those phrases flow seemingly spontaneously from the lips of our highly trained education professionals.

The entire system is iredeemably corrupt and getting worse by the day. (except, of course, the schools of the Freepers who show up to declare theri schools are different because [fill in the blank].)


175 posted on 02/08/2008 4:50:34 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Poser

In some states there is nothing to it - Texas, for example. Pennsylvania would be one of the worst. AOP has an accredited web based academy that can easily be used in a small group setting.


176 posted on 02/08/2008 4:52:25 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: stevio
"Does anyone wonder why the Rush Limbaughs and the Sean Hannitys never talk about this? Promoting Romney as the “True Conservative” this literal crap flourished under his governorship, what a crock."

Gee, and I thought Schwarzeneggger was governor of California where this legisation passed. Who knew? It just gets harder and harder to figure out which side of the U.S. California is on, doesn't it?

177 posted on 02/08/2008 4:54:35 PM PST by EverOnward
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To: mbynack

“why do Oriental and Indian students do so well when they go through it?”

They may or may not do well, academically. I think this thread is deploring the humanistic socialization program they have to go through. We are afraid they come out desensitized to a lot of evil behavior, and unable to think critically about various issues.


178 posted on 02/08/2008 4:59:52 PM PST by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: Amelia
He would never aid and assist others in doing teaching falsehood either.
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Amelia,

That should read: “My son would never aid and assist others in teaching falsehood to children either”

By the way, my son lost his job because he was **honest** and **open**. He was asked to gamble and refused. He was asked why, and he told them.

In the bizarre, Alice in Wonderland world of government schooling, would this be considered sly and sneaky?

As a family, we know that he will soon find honest work, and honest and tolerant people with whom to work. He, his wife, his five children, and the new baby to come in July, will all be richly blessed. They **are** richly blessed right now with the Gospel and the great love that they have for the Lord and for each other.

I am very, very proud of my good son. There is no greater blessing on this earth ( or in heaven) than to be blessed with a good son.

179 posted on 02/08/2008 5:01:45 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Aquinasfan; achilles2000
Superintendents go to workshops to learn how to deal with parents and the media.
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Achilles, thanks for the ping.

Aquinasfan, if you come across any articles regarding superintendents’ workshops, please ping me. I would find them very interesting.

Also...Principals have used those very phrases on me. “You are the **only** parent who has complained!” ( yeah right!)

Axiom: All Marxists lie.

Corollary: Schools are the Marxists most important weapon against freedom.

180 posted on 02/08/2008 5:09:46 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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