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Free Republic Purge: Conservative Web Site Bans Giuliani Supporters
NY Observer ^ | Published: May 24, 2007 | by Rebecca Sinderbrand

Posted on 05/26/2007 1:49:34 PM PDT by Eurotwit

A few weeks ago – in between Hillary Clinton’s official entry into the presidential race and the first Republican primary debate of the cycle – the fiery online conservative forum Free Republic marked a decade in operation as one of the premier online forums for right-wing political discussion.

It also experienced one of the biggest internal battles to rock the site since the 2000 election of George W. Bush -- a tumultuous campaign year that nearly tore the site apart, as its founder and chief administrator first cleansed commenting ranks of Bush supporters, then, later, rallied to his support.

At the heart of the latest controversy: the fight over the conservative bona fides of Rudy Giuliani.

Over the past few weeks, chaos has reigned in the “Freeper” community as members sympathetic to the former mayor's candidacy claim to have suffered banishment from the site. They were victimized, they say, by a wave of purges designed to weed out any remaining support for the Giuliani campaign on the popular conservative web forum. Another significant chunk of commenters have migrated away from the controversial site over the action, according to a number of former site members and conservative bloggers who have been tracking the situation.

In a plaintive post on the blog “Sweetness & Light,” exiled commenter Steve Gilbert, who says he does not support the former mayor’s campaign, blasted the site’s new “anti-Giuliani, anti-abortion jihad.” Since George W. Bush was elected president, he wrote, “there haven’t been any large scale [Free Republic] purges to speak of – until now.”

The fight began one month ago, when site founder Jim Robinson posted an anti-Giuliani manifesto titled: “Giuliani as the GOP presidential nominee would be a dagger in the heart of the conservative movement.” Then the virtual ax started to swing. Longtime posters to the freewheeling discussion threads, used to serious no-holds-barred web etiquette, were still stunned by the intensity of the anti-Rudy activity; conservative blogs buzzed with the development.

“Jim Robinson has been going on a tear demonizing Rudy Giuliani, because Rudy (agreeing with the vast majority of Americans), is personally opposed to abortions on a moral level…” complained a user on the GOPUSA Web site. “Anyone who posts any support for Giuliani at the site, if it's at all forceful, will be banned.”

(“Normally, we don't allow complaints about other conservative forums,” chided the moderator, but “…because it is being discussed all over the Internet, I'll make an exception.”)

Just a few months ago, Rudy Giuliani placed second in an early Free Republic straw poll; now, his support on the site has been virtually eliminated. “After the ‘April Purge,’ I don't think there are any Rudybots left around here,” noted Free Republic commenter “upchuck” in one recent post. “And if there are, they're not posting pro-Rudy stuff :).”

The forums weren’t the only venue for the Free Republic’s new antagonism toward Mr. Giuliani, which coincided with a wave of comments expressing similar sentiments from other corners of the conservative movement. A few days after Mr. Giuliani’s equivocal Roe v. Wade comments at the Republican presidential debate on May 3, a new “STOP RUDY NOW News & Information Thread” was featured on the site, and a newly-created stand-alone category debuted via a link from the homepage: “The Giuliani Truth File.” (So far this campaign season, Mr. Giuliani is the only candidate – Republican or Democratic – to be singled out for that level of scrutiny from the Free Republic.)

Why Rudy? Why now? Some conservative bloggers and former commenters contacted for their view of the continuing controversy say they believe that site founder Jim Robinson holds ideologically middling Republicans like Mr. Giuliani responsible for the GOP’s congressional loss and current woes. (They asked that their names be kept out of this story for fear of antagonizing the famously frisky site regulars.)

Others claim that the former mayor’s top-tier status is spurring frantic site administrators into action. Finally, one popular theory holds that the Free Republic is secretly hoping for another Clinton presidency that would send its Alexa ratings soaring back to levels it hasn’t experienced since its halcyon days of the Clinton impeachment, when a since-soured relationship with blog pioneer Matt Drudge and overwhelming anti-Clinton sentiment in Republican ranks helped make Free Republic one of the hottest Web sites in the nation. It hasn't recovered that luster since the Bush administration took over.

“It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s an observation,” said one blogger, who describes himself as a half-hearted Mitt Romney supporter. “They’ve still got a brand name that means something, but they’re not what they were in terms of real-world impact. A Hillary presidency would get them there.”

Robinson himself could not be reached for comment, but his original post laid out his case against Mr. Giuliani – a graphics-heavy presentation of some of the former mayor’s most damning moderate quotes in mainstream media venues, along with a color-coded report card tracking his less-than-doctrinaire positions on abortion, immigration, gays and guns.

Robinson, it should be noted, famously blasted George W. Bush’s presidential candidacy back in 2000, before a dramatic late-campaign about-face that saw him emerge as one of the GOP ticket’s biggest supporters. But whether or not Free Republic experiences a similar election-year shift this cycle, the site’s current campaign is spreading a dangerous primary-season meme of Rudy Giuliani as big-city liberal – and turning one of the most influential web forums in conservatism into an exclusive gathering place for those who share that view.


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KEYWORDS: bugzapper; byebyerinos; freepicide; goodriddance; popcorntime; rinowhine; springcleaning; wambulance; whiners
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To: Miss Marple; rockrr
Well, well, well. I see that you are PROUD of your disgusting post, which I objected to a couple of weeks ago. You have to be a liberal; you have no shame. Sadly for you, your two targets are very happy in another place, while you are still here wallowing in your bile.

Yeah, whatever.
301 posted on 05/26/2007 6:47:54 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Eurotwit
We’re famous, we’re frisky, we’re in your face!

LOL!

302 posted on 05/26/2007 6:50:50 PM PDT by Brucifer (JF'n Kerry- "That's not just a paper cut, it's a Purple Heart!")
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To: spectre

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3214008&page=1


303 posted on 05/26/2007 6:55:21 PM PDT by LimberJim (It says "Breakfast Any Time", right? I'll have the pancakes in the Age of Enlightenment.)
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To: JRochelle
To meet freepers go to FR search and type in "FReeps Ashore".

Bahama Mama

304 posted on 05/26/2007 6:56:04 PM PDT by MinuteGal (The Freeper Caribbean Beach Resort Vacation Getaway,Thread is Up! Use keywords "FReeps Ashore".)
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To: calcowgirl

Yes, also tired of the Reagan bashing.
I worked for him here in San Diego when he first ran for Gov.

We knew him as our Gov. for 8 years besides our Pres.
Most bashing him live in other states and in some cases wern’t around in the 60s when he was Gov. and how he cleaned up a huge mess and delt with anti war protesters.
Most of these same bashers were not into politics in the 1980s and are now just functioning on emotions not facts.


305 posted on 05/26/2007 6:57:35 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: SoCalPol
I was watching a clip today of Reagans funeral where they were singing The Battle Hymn of the Republic. It brought back so many memories.
306 posted on 05/26/2007 7:02:56 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Eurotwit

Thanks for posting this. It’s interesting to see how the events on this site have been viewed. I notice that the truth is not contained in this story, wherein most of those banned went out of their way to abuse the site owner or commit some other similar offense. It’s really hard to see how they could write such an article without using the word “bugzapper”.


307 posted on 05/26/2007 7:04:50 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Eurotwit

You mean to tell me there was Civil War here and I missed it? Heck I Freep often and for the past week been here 12 hours a day; been home ill, nothing better to do.


308 posted on 05/26/2007 7:05:22 PM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: processing please hold

I know what you mean.


309 posted on 05/26/2007 7:08:57 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: JRochelle
..at least, not that you know of......lol

Didn't you know...

WE'RE EVERYWHERE!!!!

310 posted on 05/26/2007 7:15:42 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Eurotwit

I miss Travis Mcgee....

I read all his books. Great stuff.


311 posted on 05/26/2007 7:18:38 PM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: Jim Robinson

You’re officially pinged...

I for one am glad you took a stand! There have been way too many liberals in conservatives clothing running around here.


312 posted on 05/26/2007 7:21:46 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: Nightshift

ping a ling...


313 posted on 05/26/2007 7:22:31 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Interesting article.

I knew I had to find FR when I read an article about a protest march that was held outside the White House during the Clinton years.

The marchers were chanting,

Bill CLinton,
step away from the intern,
put down the cigar,
and come out with your pants up!

-something like that-

:)


314 posted on 05/26/2007 7:25:20 PM PDT by JRochelle (Just say no to the slick crazy bully.)
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To: Politicalmom

I see no significant difference between Giuliani and Hillary Clinton. One of Giuliani’s supporters really jumped on me for no special reason.


315 posted on 05/26/2007 7:27:40 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Eurotwit

Rudy who?
Run under the DNC banner and get lost Rudy, buh bye.


316 posted on 05/26/2007 7:29:13 PM PDT by MadLibDisease (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen; humblegunner

You two chill. I happen to know that Humble is one of the good guys, so chill.


317 posted on 05/26/2007 7:30:42 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: SouthTexas

I must be working too much or either nobody bothered to tell me there was a purge.”

That’s what I was thinking.
I went and made a cup of coffee at the wrong time and missed the purge.


318 posted on 05/26/2007 7:33:54 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: Eurotwit
Over the past few weeks, chaos has reigned in the “Freeper” community as members sympathetic to the former mayor's candidacy claim to have suffered banishment from the site.

Chaos? Please. The people who got banned had it coming for a long time, if you ask me. Had they played their little double game on any one of the Dem websites, they would have been banned immediately. If you ask me, Jim has been remarkably tolerant of libs who pretend to be conservatives.

They were victimized, they say, by a wave of purges designed to weed out any remaining support for the Giuliani campaign on the popular conservative web forum.

And just like libs, they're always 'victims'. Need I say more?
319 posted on 05/26/2007 7:34:36 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: Eurotwit
Some conservative bloggers and former commenters contacted for their view of the continuing controversy say they believe that site founder Jim Robinson holds ideologically middling Republicans like Mr. Giuliani responsible for the GOP’s congressional loss and current woes.

The only place Rudy is "middling" is in NYC. I the rest of the country, he's far left.
320 posted on 05/26/2007 7:37:13 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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