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To: eleni121
See #59 for a case in point of what I just described. The loyalty of organized Balkan muslim soldiers and organizations during WWII was overwhelmingly Nazi, yet instead of acknowledging that fact his only response is to attempt to draw equivalency with Christian Germans who joined the Nazi army.

Nevermind that most Christian clerics opposed the Nazis.

Nevermind that most nazi leaders practiced pagan occultist beliefs rather than Christianity.

Nevermind that hundreds of thousands of Christians were massacred in the Holocaust. Nevermind that the nazis systematically targetted Catholics, Evangelicals, Pentecostals, and Jehovah's Witnesses for genocide. Nevermind that they rounded up priests and ministers by the thousands and sent them to the gas chambers.

In zimdog's fantasy world, German Christian enlistees in Hitler's army are simply a tool of moral equivalency with which he hopes to counteract a fact that he would rather not admit or acknowledge. That fact is that Hitler and Himmler personally befriended one of the highest ranking muslim clerics in the world, enlisted his help in exterminating the Jews, and used his network of thousands of other nazi-sympathizing imams to raise all-muslim Waffen-SS units in the service of the Reich.

61 posted on 02/16/2007 11:29:25 AM PST by lqclamar ("That's it, Seth, you can't blame them. It's want of education. That's all it is.")
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To: lqclamar
In zimdog's fantasy world, German Christian enlistees in Hitler's army are simply a tool of moral equivalency with which he hopes to counteract a fact that he would rather not admit or acknowledge. That fact is that Hitler and Himmler personally befriended one of the highest ranking muslim clerics in the world, enlisted his help in exterminating the Jews, and used his network of thousands of other nazi-sympathizing imams to raise all-muslim Waffen-SS units in the service of the Reich.

I am showing the weakness of your logic. You claim that the existence of 21,000 Muslim troops in the SS proves that Muslims = Nazis, but you find it absurd when I that same "logic" is applied to the millions of Christian troops in the German army.

Nevermind that most Muslims opposed the Nazis.

Nevermind that most nazi leaders practiced pagan occultist beliefs rather than Islam.

Nevermind the, what was it again, 180,000 West African Muslim troops who enlisted to fight the Nazis.

For you an SS division of Muslims is all you need to believe that all Muslims or all Balkan Muslims supported the Nazis. However, 37 SS divisions of Christians is not sufficient.

I'll admit, frankly, that your argument against this strawman is sound. Unfortunately for you, the strawman is entirely of your own construction.

And PS -- there is no global ranking of Sunni clerics.

63 posted on 02/16/2007 11:40:22 AM PST by zimdog
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To: lqclamar; zimdog

"In zimdog's fantasy world"



That is the operative descriptor here.

Zimdog's gripes with her/his own delusions about Christians leads him/her down the path of morbidly bizarre fantasy.

He/she reveals all that hate in his weird responses.


64 posted on 02/16/2007 11:44:49 AM PST by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
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