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Rudy Giuliani Throws Hat Into 2008 Presidential Ring
Post Chronicle ^ | 2/1/07

Posted on 02/01/2007 5:41:39 AM PST by areafiftyone

According to a source close to The Giuliani campaign, Rudy Giuliani is throwing his hat into the ring.  The Hinzsight Report confirms, through a source close to the Giuliani campaign, that he is presently sending people out into all 50 states to secure his name on the primary ballots.

"Despite Mayor Giuliani's public cautiousness, this is evidence that he is seriously pursuing the Presidency in 2008, and he should be taken very seriously. 

Critical state polls have shown Mayor Giuliani leading the pack, and it's about time that he start being considered what he is--the front-runner" a source tells The Hinzsight Report.

Giuliani has lined up nearly 300 key Republican supporters in New Jersey for his bid for the 2008 presidential nomination, his campaign announced this week.

In a recent Quinnipiac University poll of New Jersey voters, it showed Giuliani leading all Republican presidential candidates and ahead of Sen. Hillary Clinton, the leading Democratic contender, in a head-to-head matchup.

The New Jersey primary, which is currently set for Feb. 26, is likely to move up to Feb. 5, placing it early in the campaign season and increasing its significance.  As many as 15 states could hold their Republican presidential primaries Feb. 5, reports Gannett.



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To: Fierce Allegiance

Uh oh...what happened to that tasteful pic of yours?


41 posted on 02/01/2007 6:01:32 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Hydroshock

"So Rino Rudy wants to split the party does he."

What do you mean? McCain already did that. If you don't like Rudy, don't vote for him.


42 posted on 02/01/2007 6:02:09 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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To: areafiftyone

I have an open mind but like I say everday. Anybody But McCain.

If no one can step up to the plate who is conservative and beat McCain, then Rudy is the choice to beat McCain.

I have no qualms about it.

So if a real conservative can't "get it up" by next January, it looks like Rudy is the man to defend liberty and defeat McCain.


43 posted on 02/01/2007 6:02:41 AM PST by Nextrush (Chris Matthews Band: "I get high....I get high.....I get high....McCain.")
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To: Hydroshock

When did I "push" Rudy??? You saw my post and read what you wanted to read, not what was written.


44 posted on 02/01/2007 6:02:50 AM PST by LIConFem
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Thx, you're a gentleman (most of the time...heheh)


45 posted on 02/01/2007 6:02:54 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Which one, the cousin or the one he cheated on openly?

He cheated openly on both his first and second wives.

Of course, his second wife doesn't have much ground to complain, since she was the woman he openly cheated on his first wife with.

46 posted on 02/01/2007 6:02:54 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Doninnj

No she is not, she has never gotten over 45% support in any rat poll. Remember they love electablity and they know that about 40% to 45% of people polled say they would never vote for her.


47 posted on 02/01/2007 6:03:03 AM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President.)
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To: Peach

Why don't you think Duncan Hunter would be strong on the War on Terror?


48 posted on 02/01/2007 6:03:04 AM PST by alicewonders
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To: JimRed
"And who the heck has heard of Duncan Hunter?"

Well JimRed has heard of him... and that's good enough for me.

49 posted on 02/01/2007 6:03:32 AM PST by GulfBreeze (I Like Duncan Hunter for the GOP Presidential Nomination in 2008)
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To: LIConFem

I was just informing.


50 posted on 02/01/2007 6:03:53 AM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President.)
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To: areafiftyone

Log Cabin Republicans, feminists, and anti-gun freaks rejoice.


51 posted on 02/01/2007 6:03:57 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: Fierce Allegiance

As a coincidence, my older brother graduated from FSU last year. Not that he'd know anything about the drinking scene there; he's 46 years old with four kids.


52 posted on 02/01/2007 6:04:28 AM PST by LiveFree99
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To: areafiftyone

I'm still hoping for a conservative.


53 posted on 02/01/2007 6:04:40 AM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: Doninnj

Exactly correct!


54 posted on 02/01/2007 6:04:54 AM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: alicewonders

I think Hunter would be strong in the WOT and I like him. Peronally, I think he's running as future Secretary of State for a Republican president because I don't think he stands much of a chance.

One need only look at the fund raising done thus far, his own admission that he thinks he can do this on the cheap, and at his poll number and name recognition. He could turn all that around but will he? We'll see.


55 posted on 02/01/2007 6:05:14 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Hydroshock; areafiftyone
We can do better.

You can do a better job of splitting the party?

Hmmmmm...prolly so...

56 posted on 02/01/2007 6:05:22 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://www.virginiaisforrudy.com)
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To: Peach

On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." -Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.


The Real Rudy Giuliani:

From Human Events:

Rudy's Strong Pro-Abortion Stance

As these comments from a 1989 conversation with Phil Donahue show, Rudy Giuliani is staunchly in favor of abortion:

"I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal.

I do that in spite of my own personal reservations. I have a daughter now; if a close relative or a daughter were pregnant, I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views ...

Donahue: Which would be to continue the pregnancy.

Giuliani: Which would be that I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance [if she had] to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it."

Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion:

"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded." -- CNN.com, "Inside Politics" Dec 2, 1999

It's bad enough that Rudy is so adamantly pro-abortion, but consider what that could mean when it comes time to select Supreme Court Justices. Does the description of Giuliani that you've just read make you think he's going to select an originalist like Clarence Thomas, who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade -- or does it make you think he would prefer justices like Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy who'd leave Roe v. Wade in place?

Rudy's abortion stance is bad news for conservatives who are pro-life or who are concerned about getting originalist judges on the Supreme Court.

An Anti-Second Amendment Candidate

In the last couple of election cycles, 2nd Amendment issues have moved to the back burner mainly because even Democratic candidates have learned that being tagged with the "gun grabber" label is political poison.

Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani is a proponent of gun control who supported the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban.

Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?

Soft on Gay Marriage

Other than tax cuts, the biggest domestic issue of the 2004 election was President Bush's support of a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as being between a man and a woman. Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani has taken a "Kerryesque" position on gay marriage.

Although Rudy, like John Kerry, has said that marriage should remain between a man and a woman, he also supports civil unions, "marched in gay-pride parades" ...dressed up in drag on national television for a skit on Saturday Night Live (and moved in with a) wealthy gay couple" after his divorce. He also very vocally opposed running on a gay marriage amendment:

His thoughts on the gay-marriage amendment? "I don't think you should run a campaign on this issue," he told the Daily News earlier this month. "I think it would be a mistake for anybody to run a campaign on it -- the Democrats, the president, or anybody else."

Here's more from the New York Daily News:

"Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage.

The former mayor, who Vice President Cheney joked the other night is after his job, vigorously defended the President on his post-9/11 leadership but made clear he disagrees with Bush's proposal to rewrite the Constitution to outlaw gays and lesbians from tying the knot.

"I don't think it's ripe for decision at this point," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani..."

Although Rudy may grudgingly say he doesn't support gay marriage (and it would be political suicide for him to do otherwise), where he really stands on the issue is an open question.

Pro-Illegal Immigration

As Tom Bevan of RealClearPolitics has pointed out, Rudy is an adherent of the same approach to illegal immigration that John McCain, Ted Kennedy, George Bush, and Harry Reid have championed:

"While McCain has taken heat for his support of comprehensive immigration reform, Rudy is every bit as pro-immigration as McCain - if not more so. On the O'Reilly Factor last week Giuliani argued for a "practical approach" to immigration and cited his efforts as Mayor of New York City to "regularize" illegal immigrants by providing them with access to city services like public education to "make their lives reasonable." Giuliani did say that "a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security" needed to stop the flow of illegal immigrants coming across the border, but his overall position on immigration is essentially indistinguishable from McCain's."

That's bad enough. But, as Michelle Malkin has revealed, under Giuliani, New York was an illegal alien sanctuary and "America's Mayor" actually sued the federal government in an effort to keep New York City employees from having to cooperate with the INS:

"When Congress enacted immigration reform laws that forbade local governments from barring employees from cooperating with the INS, Mayor Rudy Giuliani filed suit against the feds in 1997. He was rebuffed by two lower courts, which ruled that the sanctuary order amounted to special treatment for illegal aliens and were nothing more than an unlawful effort to flaunt federal enforcement efforts against illegal aliens. In January 2000, the Supreme Court rejected his appeal, but Giuliani vowed to ignore the law."

If you agree with the way that Nancy Pelosi and Company deal with illegal immigration, then you'll find the way that Rudy Giuliani tackles the issue to be right down your alley.


57 posted on 02/01/2007 6:05:36 AM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President.)
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To: areafiftyone

Just like Rush said the other day, I'm not excited about anyone yet.


58 posted on 02/01/2007 6:06:20 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Acts 17:11 also known as sola scriptura.)
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To: areafiftyone
I like Guilinani, and I like Hunter.

Both have qualities I admire, and both would make fine candidates in the general election.

Thankfully, I've got a few months to make up my mind between the two.

59 posted on 02/01/2007 6:07:32 AM PST by Wormwood (Your Friendly Neighborhood Moderate)
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To: melancholy
Uh oh, beware of the Clinton meat grinder!

The heck with that -- he has to get beyond the Republican party grinder and before that the bomb throwers on FR who swarm to the Rudy threads like flies on sh*t. Enlightened discussion here? Forget about it.

60 posted on 02/01/2007 6:08:03 AM PST by CedarDave (California wants to ban light bulbs. If passed they will never have a bright idea.)
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