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Yes, Rudy Giuliani Is a Conservative
City Journal ^ | Jan.25, '07 | Steven Malanga

Posted on 01/30/2007 4:43:23 PM PST by T.L.Sink

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To: unsycophant
medical procedure taken away from women

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT - Wrong.

Medical procedures are done to preserve and promote life, not to murder living human beings.

801 posted on 01/30/2007 10:08:13 PM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: nopardons

we'll just have to agree to disagree.

obviously you think your soooo much smarter than the rest and think its perfectly alright to insult my intelligence. great debating skills you got there sparky:)

i guess only time will tell. you can dress rudy up in all the fancy suits you want. get him a new haircut and drool over his money chest, but all he looks like to me is a liberal with a big price tag.

no amount of money, tv time, radio commercials or money will make him appealing to me.

but if it comes down to it, because so many "conservatives" think a REAL conservative cant win and wont even be bothered to put forth effort or money to help well then i guess ill have to plug my nose and vote for rudy, but like i said its just the lesser of two liberals.

you can insult me all you like. it doesnt make your point or sway my views at all.

have a nice night:)


802 posted on 01/30/2007 10:09:45 PM PST by OMalley (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: nopardons
No, you weren't "idealistic"; you were stupid!

Ok, it's starting to come back, I was a rapidly fading Buchanan supporter in 2000, although that's not going to go over well on this thread. In my defense, I don't think Buchanan had entirely wigged out at that point.

803 posted on 01/30/2007 10:10:26 PM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: palmer
Let me know if you find anything. I think that most of the '99 and 2000 threads bit the dust/were deleted.

Lack of principles and a LOT of money has gotten many different people elected and reelected president and who says that Rudy doesn't haves any principles?

804 posted on 01/30/2007 10:10:29 PM PST by nopardons
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To: unsycophant

One might be careful about conflating one's personal views, with appropriate Constitutional interpretative jurisprudence. Just a thought.


805 posted on 01/30/2007 10:10:31 PM PST by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: PhiKapMom

And THAT side is whinging and whining about the "protected" and "in" people here and a change of the rules?


806 posted on 01/30/2007 10:11:53 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

WHY on Gods green earth would i give the lying liberal msm the time of day or ratings? or a liberal rag?

im in my 40s and those i know are in thier 40s or 50s. yes they vote every election and yes they donate. none that i know are willing to compromise thier values based on a price tag. sorry.

i see you post quite a bit here, so again i ask if the web isnt a good source of info, why come?


807 posted on 01/30/2007 10:13:16 PM PST by OMalley (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: palmer
In my defense, I don't think Buchanan had entirely wigged out at that point.

LOL. That's been like a slow motion free fall. I can't remember when it started and I'm not sure he's landed yet.

808 posted on 01/30/2007 10:13:59 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: nopardons

Do you know how this site loves to post polls? I just found the following poll out today (Jan 30) on-line at a site:

Giuliani Way Ahead in Latest Rasmussen Poll
A new poll from Rasmussen is out today, and the results are great news for Rudy supporters:

Giuliani - 29%
McCain - 19%
Gingrich - 16%
Romney - 8%
Brownback - 3%
Hagel - 1%
Huckabee - 1%
Other - 5%
Undecided - 19%

Giuliani’s number are more or less unchanged over the past three polls, but McCain continues to see his numbers slide. In fact, the general matchup number are cause for concern for McCain as well (numbers in parantheses are from the last poll):

McCain 45% (49)
Clinton 44% (45)

Obama 47% (40)
McCain 44% (46)

Edwards 46% (41)
McCain 43% (46)

McCain 43% (–)
Richardson 39% (–)

Giuliani’s favorability rating has remained consistent at 63%, but McCain’s has dropped from 59% one month ago to 52% now. And Giuliani has increased his lead over Hillary! in a general matchup:

Giuliani 49% (47)
Clinton 43% (42)



809 posted on 01/30/2007 10:16:55 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Steele -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; Jake The Goose; ...

Check out #809 on here. Do you remember when someone used to post every poll? I cannot find this in the archives on here. Wonder why? :)


810 posted on 01/30/2007 10:22:04 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Steele -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: OMalley
I haven't insulted you, nor have I made any claims of superiority. I have patiently, again and again tried to explain certain things to you, with which you have taken uncalled for umbrage.

I don't care WHO the candidate is, nor for what office...if he can't get his message out, sell himself, generate interest,and refute what is said against him, he gets left in the dust. That's just the way it is. It could be another Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan, or XXXXXXXXXX ( fill in the blank ), if that person doesn't have money, political backing from the big guns, no real team, he has NOTHING.

Is Hunter THE most Conservative person in the GOP filed? What about Tancredo and Ron Paul and Brownback and Huckabee?

811 posted on 01/30/2007 10:23:58 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Torie; unspun

One might do a lot of things, but this is Free Republic, not some halfassed site run by one or more nutcases.

The abortion debate is a complete waste of time since there is no resolution. I know where I stand, and that's all that matters.

Ciao!


812 posted on 01/30/2007 10:25:22 PM PST by unsycophant
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To: palmer
Pat "wigged out" long BEFORE 2000!

And yes, that is NOT going to help you any at all! LOL

813 posted on 01/30/2007 10:25:28 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Ok, in a bit of a hole here, but I distinctly dropping support for Pat sometime in the campaign and voting Browne (Bush had VA in the bag). Does that help?


814 posted on 01/30/2007 10:28:37 PM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: OMalley
Not all newspapers are "liberal rags".

I never said that FR wasn't a good source to find many different articles on. I'm here to debate and I'm also here to read things I otherwise would not see.

ROTFLOL................you haves NO idea just how much I post and have posted. :-)

815 posted on 01/30/2007 10:28:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: unsycophant

Some think the ballot box still has meaning, silly me, and those that think that way, even those few who are near atheists, in a delusional fit, don't think of themselves as nut cases. Perhaps heavy therapy is indicated for this cohort, so that they can more fully fathom the truth as to their nutter status.


816 posted on 01/30/2007 10:28:58 PM PST by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: nopardons

well if i took what you are saying personally and it wasnt meant that way, then i apoligize, though it does appear so.

i KNOW it takes money and support. BUT how is he suppose to get that (money and support) when some cannot even be BOTHERED to do it? when theyve decided from the git go that he cant make it? do you see how silly that is?

if every rudy supporter sent money and volunteered for hunter, do you still think his chances would be slim?

the truth is for whatever reason you prefer rudys platform to anyone elses. just as i do hunter.

we could go back and forth all night with you "explaining" to me how it works and myself TRYING to explain that I KNOW. i just choose to support the candidate that is in line with my values, just as you are.

if he doesnt make it, he doesnt make it, but atleast i made an effort. why is that so hard to understand?


817 posted on 01/30/2007 10:29:39 PM PST by OMalley (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: PhiKapMom

WOW...........those are very interesting numbers, even at this early stage of things.


818 posted on 01/30/2007 10:30:48 PM PST by nopardons
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To: palmer

Oh dear.............no, that really doesn't help you at all. As a matter of fact, it does rather make things much worse.


819 posted on 01/30/2007 10:32:35 PM PST by nopardons
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To: PhiKapMom

Is it the rule now that all Rudy threads have to be posted to the Smoky Backroom? If that's the case I'll need to reconfigure my sidebar to add that forum to the list!


820 posted on 01/30/2007 10:33:48 PM PST by CedarDave (Hanoi Jane never got over her AIDS (America Is Deranged Syndrome))
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