Posted on 01/29/2007 1:36:27 PM PST by Dark Skies
Many skeptics continue to question whether Rudy Giuliani is serious about making a run for the White House, but it was abundantly clear on Saturday that he had come to Manchester for more than the sub-freezing temperatures.
Addressing over 500 activists at the New Hampshire Republican Party's annual meeting as part of a two-day swing through the state, Giuliani sketched the broad outlines of what looks like a presidential run. Sounding at times like a motivational speaker, Giuliani cautioned against cynicism and pessimism in the wake of November's election results and challenges in the ongoing War on Terror. The message especially resonated with the audience in this critical primary state, where the Republican Party just lost control of both chambers of the legislature for the first time since the 1870s.
"The best way we remain safe and we retain our freedom...is remaining on offense, remaining strong and not becoming weak in a time of pressure," Giuliani said in a line that drew the biggest applause from the crowd at the Palace Theater.
(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...
"Hey, if the Rudy boosters started posting anything of substance..."
I'm convinced the Rudyphiles don't think with their brains, but their emotions. They're letting that nice, patriotic feeling they got after September 11, 2001 and Giuliani's leadership take over the rational thought they'd have otherwise that Giuliani ain't conservative on ANYTHING other than the war on terror. And every republican candidate except for two or maybe three are conservative on the war on terror.
My problem with your definition of pragmatism is that it pre-emptively marginalizes issues of tremendous importance to conservatives. I don't expect 100% agreement with a candidate, but I also don't expect a massive over reaction to the recent election that results in a leap so far to the left that core principles are abandoned.
Of the leading contenders, Giuliani is easily the farthest to the left, why the need for so many to jump the bandwagon this early?
As for the tenor of the debate, I'll simply say that many of the Rudy boosters fit your description to a tee. FR is alive and well and if anything will lead to its downfall it will be mindless boosterism at the expense of conservatism.
That's why I think it important for JimRob to let us know if we are allowed to support Rudy on this site. IIRC Rudy garnered quite a number of Freeper support on the FR poll.
So do you think we should not be allowed to support Rudy?
Bite me and if you haven't noticed Feingold is a Democrat
And here's how I think it will go:
-- Rudy wins the nomination.
-- Many of the purists will consign themselves to the sidelines to sulk, saying they will either vote for the Vegetarian-AustrianEconomics Party nominee or will not vote at all.
-- Rudy will beat Hillary in a massive landslide, even with the purists off sulking.
Someone asked me earlier how I think that conservativism will become irrelevant. Conservatism is always relevant as long as we have the freedom to debate in his nation. But many conservatives will be rendered irrelevant because their purist tendencies will not allow them to participate in the great election of 2008 because Rudy publicly appeared in a dress as a joke a few times.
The right to an abortion is currently the law. Whether you, I or the person down the street likes it, that is the law that our country has been left with. For those who do not like it they are welcome to peacefully protest the law--it is their right.
For myself and many others,at this time in the history of our country, there is a larger picture, one that contains safety and security. As in your vociferous defense of the unborn, to which you are entitled, I likewise am entitled to be concerned for the safety and security of our citizens, the defense of our borders and our Constitution. I never again want to see a disaster like 9-11 and will do all that I can to prevent it from happening.
"IIRC Rudy garnered quite a number of Freeper support on the FR poll."
Being on of two moderates in that poll (along with John McCain), Giuliani is a distant third and barely ahead of Tancredo in fourth. Hunter, Gingrich, Tancredo and Paul are all sucking in the same kind-of-conservative vote from this site.
We need to clarify if Freepers are allowed to support Rudy.
You're doing your darnest to make sure that happens, aren't you.
Some guy that is a real conservative got one. His name is Jim Robinson. And he thinks Rudy will split the party also...not that any Rudybot cares...
No. How else can I convince the rest of the world that supporting Rudy portends disaster if y'all aren't here promoting him and posting threads about him? :^)
Are we allowed to support who we want?
You take your 2% Hunter and ask the 30% to leave? We we never said Hunter supporters were smart.
So, you're not an actual member of the Republican Party. I thought so.
You may donate to Republican candidates, you may vote for Republican candidates, and your Party Preference may be Republican, but until you are elected to a position within the Republican Party, you are not an actual Member of the Republican Party. You're a voter and a donor, but not a member.
I am a Member of the Republican Party. I am in my 3rd term as an elected Precinct Committeeman. I've served twice as a State Committeeman for the Republican Party. So, before you run your mouth again about who is really a Republican or not, you may want to consider that fact that you are not a member of the Republican Party yourself.
Now, I know that some people on my side are members of the party, and I know some people on your side are members too. But it was YOU that was questioning who is an actual Republican or not.
With the support of conservatives.
"Vegetarian-AustrianEconomics Party" ROTFLMAO! Who are they running? LOL!
If Giuliani gets the republican nomination, I will vote constitution party (mostly because I live in a safe state, if I didn't, I'd be really conflicted.) The constitution party will put up either Jim Gilchrist, Jerome R. Corsi or Alan Keyes. Most likely Gilchrist, he's the only one showing real interest (I really like Gilchrist too.)
Rudy won in that poll IIRC. Isn't it still around on the front page?
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