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Dinosaurs, humans coexist in U.S. creation museum
Reuters ^ | 1 hour, 39 minutes ago | Andrea Hopkins

Posted on 01/14/2007 5:31:07 PM PST by Tim Long

PETERSBURG, Kentucky - Ken Ham's sprawling creation museum isn't even open yet, but an expansion is already underway in the state-of-the art lobby, where grunting dinosaurs and animatronic humans coexist in a Biblical paradise.

A crush of media attention and packed preview sessions have convinced Ham that nearly half a million people a year will come to Kentucky to see his Biblically correct version of history.

"I think we'll be surprised at how many people come," Ham said as he dodged dozens of designers working to finish exhibits in time for the May 28 opening.

The $27 million project, which also includes a planetarium, a special-effects theater, nature trails and a small lake, is privately funded by people who believe the Bible's first book, Genesis, is literally true.

For them, a museum showing Christian schoolchildren and skeptics alike how the earth, animals, dinosaurs and humans were created in a six-day period about 6,000 years ago -- not over millions of years, as evolutionary science says -- is long overdue.

While foreign media and science critics have mostly come to snigger at exhibits explaining how baby dinosaurs fit on Noah's Ark and Cain married his sister to people the earth, museum spokesman and vice-president Mark Looy said the coverage has done nothing but drum up more interest.

"Mocking publicity is free publicity," Looy said. Besides, U.S. media have been more respectful, mindful perhaps of a 2006 Gallup Poll showing almost half of Americans believe that humans did not evolve, but were created by God in their present form within the last 10,000 years.

Looy said supporters of the museum include evangelical Christians, Orthodox Jews and conservative Catholics, as well as the local Republican congressman, Geoff Davis (news, bio, voting record), and his family, who have toured the site.

FROM 'JAWS' TO EDEN

While the debate between creationists and mainstream scientists has bubbled up periodically in U.S. schools since before the Scopes "monkey trial" in nearby Tennessee 80 years ago, courts have repeatedly ruled that teaching religious theory in public schools is unconstitutional.

Ham, an Australian who moved to America 20 years ago, believes creationists could have presented a better case at the Scopes trail if they'd been better educated -- but he's not among those pushing for creation to be taught in school.

Rather than force skeptical teachers to debate creation, Ham wants kids to come to his museum, where impassioned experts can make their case that apparently ancient fossils and the Grand Canyon were created just a few thousand years ago in a great flood.

"It's not hitting them over the head with a Bible, it's just teaching that we can defend what it says," he said.

Ham, who also runs a Christian broadcasting and publishing venture, said the museum's Hollywood-quality exhibits set the project apart from the many quirky Creation museums sprinkled across America.

The museum's team of Christian designers include theme park art director Patrick Marsh, who designed the "Jaws" and "King Kong" attractions at Universal Studios in Florida, as well as dozens of young artists whose conviction drives their work.

"I think it shows (nonbelievers) the other side of things," said Carolyn Manto, 27, pausing in her work painting Ice Age figures for a display about caves in France.

"I don't think it's going to be forcing any viewpoint on them, but challenging them to think critically about their evolutionary views," said Manto, who studied classical sculpture before joining the museum.

Still, Looy is upfront about the museum's mission: to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ with nonbelievers.

"I think a lot of people are going to come out of curiosity ... and we're going to present the Gospel. This is going to be an evangelistic center," Looy said. A chaplain has been hired for museum-goers in need of spiritual guidance.

The museum's rural location near the border of Kentucky, Ohio and Indiana places it well within America's mostly conservative and Christian heartland. But the setting has another strategic purpose: two-thirds of Americans are within a day's drive of the site, and Cincinnati's international airport is minutes away.

The project has not been without opposition. Zoning battles with environmentalists and groups opposed to the museum's message have delayed construction and the museum's opening day has been delayed repeatedly.

The museum has hired extra security and explosives-sniffing dogs to counter anonymous threats of damage to the building. "We've had some opposition," Looy said.


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To: zylphed

I don't know what you wrote about the dna code is accurate. Sure doesn't sound like it. But it doesn't negate the amazing responsibility the code has in our bodies. It is far more intricate than a computer code. I mean, it's putting in motion the nano factory that is our cells and bodies. If you really look into it it is amazing and is obviously designed by an intelligence.


221 posted on 01/15/2007 9:43:59 AM PST by fabian
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To: atlaw

The cambrian explosion was basically the earliest period ever found where species 'began' en mass- before that period, you have basically nothing, and certainly no transitional species- there's plenty on the net explaining the explosion-

Sure- the protections are built in to the cells- they prevent foreign info from tainting the species info- there are several layers of these protections which ensure that species will always remain within their own kind- this is what prevents breeders from breeding cats and dogs together- or anyhting outside of it's own kind- we find htese celular protections going all the way back to the cambrian age-


222 posted on 01/15/2007 9:46:23 AM PST by CottShop
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To: UpAllNight

yes I did...your just listening to your darkside again. The amazing responsibility of the dna code and that it is more complex in function than a computer code is a fact. You would never say that your computer code could make itself naturally.


223 posted on 01/15/2007 9:50:32 AM PST by fabian
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To: fabian

he knows that fabian- but in order for him to admit that- he would have to admit that what they find is indeed fact and that it contradicts his reeligion of evolution- be prepared for many such blinders-on accusations from the evolution crowd-


224 posted on 01/15/2007 9:50:39 AM PST by CottShop
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To: Central Scrutiniser

nah- I aint doing all your research for you- You can google it just as well as I can- either that or shout "Nope- yuou didn't provide a link- not gonna beleive you'- whatever- the facts are there.


225 posted on 01/15/2007 9:53:44 AM PST by CottShop
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To: CottShop

It's customary for the person making the claim to back it up. Otherwise he or she looks like an ignorant blowhard.


226 posted on 01/15/2007 9:55:21 AM PST by Junior (Losing faith in humanity one person at a time.)
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To: CottShop
it's worse than that- I was being generous giving huge leway- radio carbon dating goes wonky after much less than 50,000 due to condiotions that are less than ideal- Which evo's fail to account for or even concider

False. Radiocarbon depends on the half-life of C-14; by the time you get to 50,000 years, the signal to noise ratio makes normal techniques inadequate. (There are a few labs experimenting with better methods which may permit analysis of older samples, but those are not commonly used.)

Archaeologists know this, and take it into account. "Evos" don't often use radiocarbon dating. They use other forms of radiometric dating that are suitable for older specimens and specimens that contain no carbon.

Please read the links I provided upthread.

227 posted on 01/15/2007 9:58:07 AM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: zylphed
nah it's not thqat hard- yep- there's plenty of bacteria- they are all the same 'kind' something like 200 hummingbirds- but 'all' are hummingbirds regardless of the amount of micro-evolutiojn that goes on- they remain the same 'kind' (People often try to discount the noah ark story by claiming "You couldn't fit all the species on the ark'- but Noah didn't have to- just all the 'kinds' on the ark was sufficient, and YES there wqas plenty of room) Lynn had to admit in the end that it was nothing but simbiotic relationship because the facts were exposed- this is something the textbooks won't tell you but if you search, you will find the obscure resports on this- this is one of those reports I've lost and wish I remembered where it was- it won't be easy because when you google eukoroytes/simbiosis, you'll get a ton of evo articles all claiming the same thing- that it proves evo- but there are several reports that showed she had to admit it wasn't in the end buried within those articles.
228 posted on 01/15/2007 10:00:05 AM PST by CottShop
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To: Wormwood

snigger al lyou like- but there is ancient pottery showing depictions of dinos that science is just now learning about as to how certain dinos acted and walked- pottery showing even the domestication of some dinos- now- either the ancients were far more advanced than our scientists, or they saw first hand what the dinos did


229 posted on 01/15/2007 10:04:16 AM PST by CottShop
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To: doc30; Alkhin

Thank you for your moral support! I'm glad I'm not the only person who sees the unGodliness of Creationists.


230 posted on 01/15/2007 10:05:56 AM PST by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: Junior

it's also customary of those who provide links disputing the evidence to have their links totally discounted because they might have the word God in them- think what you want- I've been in far too many of these arguments to care what folks do or don't do- the results of these threads always foolows the same patterns of denial


231 posted on 01/15/2007 10:13:18 AM PST by CottShop
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To: Coyoteman

all of which have hteir own problems as I hspowed in the links I provided- and all throwing out evidences that contradict their preconceived ideas- Carbon dating is not accurate even to 50,000 as I said due to events unknown to those doing hte testing- As I stated- previous notions of coal and subsequent tersting showed it to supposedly be millions of years old- the fact is that catastrophic events throw that whole concept on it's head


232 posted on 01/15/2007 10:16:44 AM PST by CottShop
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To: fabian

you bring up a good point- people point to how 'similiar' we are to chimps- but what they NEVER tell you is how vastly dissimiliar we are- billions of times dissimiliar when it comes to the code between the two species.


233 posted on 01/15/2007 10:18:21 AM PST by CottShop
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To: Coyoteman
I have obtained a lot of radiocarbon dates older than 6000 years. Are you telling me they are all wrong?

Yes they are wrong.

You can't support the claim that it is older than 6000 years with carbon dating so we are both working on faith.

234 posted on 01/15/2007 10:20:17 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Acts 17:11 also known as sola scriptura.)
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To: CottShop
Ahhh...

So you won't provide any evidence because you don't have any confidence in the evidence you have to stand up to scrutiny? Makes sense. If I were in as untenable a position I might refrain from showing my cards too.

235 posted on 01/15/2007 10:21:40 AM PST by Junior (Losing faith in humanity one person at a time.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

I think we should make YEC part of the Republican platform for '08. This should really energize the social conservative base and ensure we achieve a landslide victory.

(what's even more frightening are the people who'd actually support/believe that)


236 posted on 01/15/2007 10:28:45 AM PST by mgstarr
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To: DungeonMaster
I have obtained a lot of radiocarbon dates older than 6000 years. Are you telling me they are all wrong?

Yes they are wrong.

You can't support the claim that it is older than 6000 years with carbon dating so we are both working on faith.

Sorry, that happens not to be the case.

You are doing apologetics (defense of religion), while I am doing science. Religious claims and other things supernatural require faith as they cannot be independently verified.

Science does not require faith because it is based on facts and theory. When a scientific theory has a long history of being supported by verifiable evidence, it is appropriate to speak about "acceptance" of (not "belief" in) the theory; or we can say that we have "confidence" (not "faith") in the theory. It is the dependence on verifiable data and the capability of testing that distinguish scientific theories from matters of faith.

Science finds no evidence to support a 6000 year old earth, while there is a mass of evidence supporting an old earth.

237 posted on 01/15/2007 10:31:35 AM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Tim Long
I see. You are so literal that even though the Bible makes it clear that pride, envy, anger, sloth, avarice, gluttony, and lust, long considered the primary "deadly sins" by Christian theologians, they MUST NOT BE TRUE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SPECIFICALLY LISTED AS SUCH IN THE BIBLE.

What I really see is that you have never seriously read many, if any, ordinary textbooks on paleontology or natural history because you have little sincere curiosity as to the way God's world works, that you are blinded by your pride which you tell yourself is "faith." In truth, your faith is so weak that worldly scienfic physical truths threaten your belief in God.

You must also think Jesus was a liar because he told his followers to remove the mote, log, or splinter from their own eyes before judging others, when you and I and any other thinking person knows that any of those three items in a person's eye would probably be a mortal injury -- parables are okay in some parts of the bible, but not in Genesis?

You are allowing yourself to be a tool of evil because of pride. You really need to do some serious READING in a spirit of humbleness, plain old science TEXTBOOKS; acknowledge the difference between scientific findings and scientists who declare that they "prove" the absence of God (two very different items that Creationists CANNOT SEEM TO GET THROUGH THEIR STUBBORN HEADS); and also to do some serious soul-searching as to whether you really believe that either:
A) your fellow man and often religious scientiests are so wantonly wicked that they've successfully engaged in blatant fraud for the past century OR
B) God plants false physical evidence.

238 posted on 01/15/2007 10:34:19 AM PST by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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I will quickly dispel the misconception that Scripture says that the earth is only 6,000 years old - a myth that is held by the majority of Christians. In so doing, I hope to end the debate between science and creation. The universe is around 15 billion years old and it took God exactly six days to create it.
239 posted on 01/15/2007 10:37:19 AM PST by anglian
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To: Junior

lol- keep from showing them? They are FREELY avAIlable to you sir- I am not hiding anything- as I said- look them up if you're interested- don't if you don't want to discover them- choice is yours- As I said- I'm not spending all day as you or anyone elses errand boy because as I said- it amounts to a hill of beans because as soon as I do give them- there will be one of two thiongs happen- denail because the article contains the word God- (denial plus copious amounts of ridicule and insults thrown in) or two- the person will ignore the facts and simply move on to the next rabbit trail as though the evidences agaisnt what they stated were of no consequence.


240 posted on 01/15/2007 10:47:05 AM PST by CottShop
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