Posted on 12/16/2006 11:22:33 AM PST by Blackirish
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Vice President Dick Cheney's pregnant lesbian daughter Mary will make a "fine mom," President George W. Bush said, sidestepping his past comment that a child ideally would be raised by a mother and father.
Mary Cheney, 37, and her longtime partner, Heather Poe, are expecting their first child, which would be the sixth grandchild for the vice president. Cheney was hired last year as an executive for America Online.
"I think Mary is going to be a loving soul to her child. And I'm happy for her," Bush said in an interview with People magazine.
I was sitting around having a few with one of my conservative buddies, and we were speculating about how many of the Founding Fathers were less concerned about Judeo-Christian principles, and more about being left to grow their crops in peace. [not trying to sidetrack the thread]
Well, I think the fact that they threw tea into Boston harbor and not the Church of England's Book of Common Prayer, may be a clear indication of what their primary concerns were.
Bilgewater.
It was the suppression of real Christianity, and of the Bible, that brought about the Dark Ages.
And it was the rise of Christianity, informed by the availability of the printed Word of God, that dispelled the Dark Ages.
You and your friends are simply blindered bigots.
If you really gave a crap about homosexuals, you'd not encourage their behavior.
Let's have some facts on the results of societal acceptance of homosexual behavior:
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html
Executive Summary
Sexual relationships between members of the same sex expose gays, lesbians and bisexuals to extreme risks of Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STDs), physical injuries, mental disorders and even a shortened life span. There are five major distinctions between gay and heterosexual relationships, with specific medical consequences. They are:
Levels of Promiscuity
Prior to the AIDS epidemic, a 1978 study found that 75 percent of white, gay males claimed to have had more than 100 lifetime male sex partners: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250-499; 15 percent claimed 500- 999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners. Levels of promiscuity subsequently declined, but some observers are concerned that promiscuity is again approaching the levels of the 1970s. The medical consequence of this promiscuity is that gays have a greatly increased likelihood of contracting HIV/AIDS, syphilis and other STDs.
Similar extremes of promiscuity have not been documented among lesbians. However, an Australian study found that 93 percent of lesbians reported having had sex with men, and lesbians were 4.5 times more likely than heterosexual women to have had more than 50 lifetime male sex partners. Any degree of sexual promiscuity carries the risk of contracting STDs.
Physical Health
Common sexual practices among gay men lead to numerous STDs and physical injuries, some of which are virtually unknown in the heterosexual population. Lesbians are also at higher risk for STDs. In addition to diseases that may be transmitted during lesbian sex, a study at an Australian STD clinic found that lesbians were three to four times more likely than heterosexual women to have sex with men who were high-risk for HIV.
Mental Health
It is well established that there are high rates of psychiatric illnesses, including depression, drug abuse, and suicide attempts, among gays and lesbians. This is true even in the Netherlands, where gay, lesbian and bisexual (GLB) relationships are far more socially acceptable than in the U.S. Depression and drug abuse are strongly associated with risky sexual practices that lead to serious medical problems.
Life Span
The only epidemiological study to date on the life span of gay men concluded that gay and bisexual men lose up to 20 years of life expectancy.
Monogamy
Monogamy, meaning long-term sexual fidelity, is rare in GLB relationships, particularly among gay men. One study reported that 66 percent of gay couples reported sex outside the relationship within the first year, and nearly 90 percent if the relationship lasted five years.
Encouraging people to engage in risky sexual behavior undermines good health and can result in a shortened life span. Yet that is exactly what employers and governmental entities are doing when they grant GLB couples benefits or status that make GLB relationships appear more socially acceptable.
Funny how, whenever you are losing an argument, you bring up bestiality. Keep your story straight.
You have said that you want to control who gets pregnant in this country, how are you gonna have the government do it? You want the government to track who is gay and who isn't.
You really seem to want the government to be involved in everyone's life, right down to their relationships and birthing.
You are a scary little control freak.
Hey, thanks to your mentor, Alan Keyes, we got Obama.
Great work BTW, maybe next time Alan will come within 20 points of winning.
LOL
Actually, the source of Obama's success lies much more with folks that remind me alot of you and your friends. With RINOs doing their dirty work, Democrats scarcely have to lift a finger.
Remind me again why you and your pro-homosexual agenda friends hang out at a conservative website?
I hope social conservatives didn't buy into the lie that Bush really was pushing for the Federal Marriage amendment to pass. It's easy to voice support for efforts which have no chance of succeeding.
Which one of the risks associated with those behaviors do not apply to heterosexuals?
Actually, its a refutiation by liberals and conservatives of a kook like Alan Keyes who doesn't represent what voters want, not now, not in the past, and certainly not in the future.
The last elections woke a lot of people up, and put some of the sleeping ones into a deeper coma.
I am not a pro homosexual agenda person, just someone that believes that the government has no place intruding into people's bedrooms and that a theocracy is not the way to go.
And, I am a conservative, just not the bible swinging, condemning and snooping type.
Perhaps you need to read a little closer at the link I provided. The risks are much higher for homosexuals.
Typical liberal boilerplate.
The battle over homosexuality is not because conservatives have intruded into anybody's bedroom. It is because homosexuals and their enablers have intruded their sickness and immorality into the public square, and are demanding that society approve of their dangerous and destructive lifestyle...even to the point of them demanding that we give over the minds, hearts and bodies of our children.
And the "theocracy" comment is inexecrable. Practically all of the opponents of the homosexual agenda in America are small "r" republicans. The fact you even make such a claim marks you as an anti-Christian bigot.
I know I am winning an argument when someone calls me liberal.
LOL
Keep up the good work EV, maybe the democrats will hire you to work for a republican to help their efforts!
BTW, I don't appreciate the way the evangelicals have intruded into our classrooms, trying to impose their irrational dogmatic fables upon science classes, demanding that they corrupt the minds, hearts and bodies of our children with pseudoscientific nonsense.
I'm not an anti christian bigot, if you want to be a christian, be one, just don't go trying to put it in people's faces that don't want to hear it.
27% LOL
Said the snakekin to his flock.
Coming from the likes of you and yours...a compliment.
Does the story of the woman caught in adultery, forgiven and released (John 8:3-11) negate the punishment demanded of such sin? ( death penalty?)
God Forgave Adulterers Before
Gomer was an adulteress yet God forgave her (Hos. 3:1). Still, He demanded that His people obey His law (Hos. 4:6).
King David committed adultery and murder (2 Sam. 11). Yet God forgave him (Psalm 32:1-5).
It was a conscious decision on God's part to not execute David. As Nathan said to David:
As Nathan said to David:
* "The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die. However... by this deed you have given great occasion to the enemies of the Lord to blaspheme..." 2 Sam. 12:13
Still, God's law remained in effect (Ps. 1:2; 19:7; 78:1, 5-8; 89:30-32; 119).
God forgave the New Testament adulterer just as He forgave Old Testament adulterers, in neither instance revoking His law. God has all authority to forgive the criminal and disregard temporal punishment. Contrariwise, Men must obey God and cannot ignore punishment.
The Pharisees Wanted to Trap Christ
The Pharisees wanted to accuse Jesus of rebelling against the Roman Empire:
* This [the Pharisees] said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. John 8:6
Rome had revoked the Jews' authority to put a criminal to death (John 18:31). A straight-forward answer to the Pharisees would have brought Jesus into premature conflict with Rome before His "hour had come." Jesus solved this problem stating, "He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first" (John 8:7). Christ often frustrated the Pharisees giving clever answers that thwarted their wicked intentions (Mat. 22:15-22; 21:21-27; Mark 12:13-17; Luke 20:20-26).
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Without the law, lawlessness cannot exist. Yet as Christ said, "because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold" (Mat. 24:12). Christ will throw "those who practice lawlessness... into the furnace of fire" (Mat. 13:41-42).
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* ...those who rebuke the wicked will have delight, and a good blessing will come upon them. Prov. 24:25
Ahh Bull...
I am not happy either, but they are just trying to get past it, I think, and move on to more pressing problems.
I don't agree with that kind of lifestyle anymore than I agree with these ladies, having children out of wedlock. It is just wrong, but we cannot answer for their behavior. We can only answer and control our own.
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