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To: nopardons
I don't think the McCain or Rudy have the money now.

I don't think Rudy would have a chance of winning in the primaries but he likely would raise and waste a bunch in running.

Grassroots dollars in an election cycle are limited. If they get wasted before the general election on someone with no chance that money is gone.

When volunteers put in a bunch of time working on a hyped up candidate that loses they seldom want to work for the primary winner.

The MSM is pushing Rudy because they know he is the only one Hillary is sure to beat.
McCain is a treasonous bastard and is insane.

There are plenty of other Republicans that can win. Brownback, Hunter, I wouldn't count out Romney.

George Allen was who I wanted but it looks like he wont run.
375 posted on 12/15/2006 9:43:49 PM PST by Beagle8U
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To: Beagle8U

"I wouldn't count out Romney."

I agree. He is intelligent and an excellent strategic thinker. He is putting together a great staff and is a pro at raising money. Just look what he did at Bain Capital and at the 2002 Winter Olympics. :)


399 posted on 12/15/2006 9:53:53 PM PST by circumbendibus
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To: Beagle8U
You are not only newish here, it appears that you are also a political naif and one who knows far less about politics, than you imagine you do.

The behind the scenes chats with FAT CAT money-men have been going on for months. Political behind the scenes guys lined up and signed on.

The MSM and the Dems are doing EVERYTING in their power, which you have swallowed hook, line, AND sinker, to make you detest the ONLY person who CAN beat Hillary, in today's known GOP probable primary entrants.

Psssssssssssssssssssssssssssst.....it isn't YOUR money, that gets "wasted", unless YOU have already or plan to donate money to Rudy, which you won't, so WHY are you talking such unadulterated nonsense?

Grassroots money goes to whom the those in the "GRASSROOTS" give to! It appears that you REALLY have absolutely NO idea HOW politics works in America!

Hunter has about as much chance of wining the GOP primary as I do and I'm not going to enter it. Brownback is in the same category. Allen was NEVER ready for higher office; let alone the presidential primary. Talk about a list of NOT ready for prime time nobodies! Yeah, you are soooooooooooooo politically savvy.........NOT!

457 posted on 12/15/2006 10:31:50 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Beagle8U
[The MSM is pushing Rudy because they know he is the only one Hillary is sure to beat.]



I disagree with this. Should these two get their respective party's' nominations, Giuliani would beat Senator Clinton like a stolen mule because Hillary has NO advantage over Rudy on ANY issue in one to one match ups. This is true for the issues of immigration, taxes, guns, abortion, government budget, gays, social security, health care and a variety of other issues. And Rudy would absolutely dominate on the issues of business, law enforcement and especially foreign policy, including the WOT.

Also consider that:

--Rudy has more support from either conservatives or libertarians than Hillary has support from either liberals or progressives.

--Rudy is more popular with the right leaning voter than Hillary is with the left leaning voter and He's also more popular among moderates and independents.

--Rudy is confidant, well spoken, charismatic and likable, while Hillary is shrill sounding and annoying, even to the ears of her supporters, and is incapable of expressing herself cogently when forced to deviate from simple memorized sound bites.


If Hillary is the nominee, the race is her opponent's to lose.
462 posted on 12/15/2006 10:33:57 PM PST by spinestein (There is no pile of pennies so large that I won't throw two more on top.)
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