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To: SoCalPol

We're not discussing economics. We're talking about rational people like Ms. Cheney who are not capable of having a family because of her sexual and relationship choice. She took a baby from a potential mom and dad. bottomline.


37 posted on 12/06/2006 12:06:41 AM PST by ridge
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To: ridge

Some mom & dad's should not be parents.
Working with the county attys. I have seen what some have done to their kids, most is not printable.


40 posted on 12/06/2006 12:11:54 AM PST by SoCalPol (We Need A Border Fence Now)
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To: ridge
She took a baby from a potential mom and dad. bottomline.

And mom and dads have a pretty poor track record of staying together THROUGH the raising of kids. I'm talking the kids are at least 18.

47 posted on 12/06/2006 12:23:54 AM PST by paulat (about)
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To: ridge
> She took a baby from a potential mom and dad.

No she didn't, she created her own -- she's pregnant, not adopting. Any potential mom and dad who want a kid can either have one themselves, or adopt one of the millions of kids without moms and dads. Her gain is not at the loss of any other potential parent.

That said, IMO the biological father loses out because he doesn't get to raise his offspring; and the child loses out because s/he won't have a father (although grandfather Dick will stand in admirably I'm sure). But your statement just doesn't make sense, because she didn't "take" anything from anybody.

63 posted on 12/06/2006 12:52:28 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: ridge

How has she taken a child from a potential parent that makes no sense.

Given her situation if medical procedures had not been gone into it would have just meant one less child because she would never have become pregnant.


81 posted on 12/06/2006 1:47:39 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: ridge
She took a baby from a potential mom and dad. bottomline.

TOOK??? Do you know something we don't? The details are not in the column.

97 posted on 12/06/2006 3:14:06 AM PST by newzjunkey (Prepare. President Rodham, 01-20-09.)
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To: ridge

I have a friend in a long term, committed relationship. Devout Christian. He and his partner adopted three boys a few years ago. They have formed a happy family.

Now you may say that they "took these children from a potential mom and dad." In theory, they did. But these kids had been in foster care for years, shuttled from home to home, and split up several times. There was no one waiting to adopt them. No one wanted them. Not their biological parents, not anyone else. They would have aged out of foster care eventually, and perhaps ended up on the streets.

Instead the boys are together, part of a family, in a home where they are loved.

But according to you, this is wrong, because the parents are gay.


205 posted on 12/06/2006 7:34:56 AM PST by dr luba
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To: ridge

"She took a baby from a potential mom and dad. bottomline."

I do not have to approve of Ms. Cheney's relationship to know this is sheer balderdash.

How did she "take" a baby from anybody else? What baby did she take?

The obvious fact is, there was no baby to "take." This is not an adoption or a surrogacy -- she is carrying the baby herself. She was inseminated in some manner; probably by artificial insemination, possibly by actual intercourse with a male partner (sometimes lesbians have been known to do it that way.

When the baby is delivered, it will be from her & will be hers -- no other couple will be "deprived" of a baby. Unless you think there is only a limited amount of semen in the world and that the small amount of it that has impregnated Ms Cheney would otherwise have gone to some other woman in a heterosexual union?


453 posted on 12/06/2006 12:34:47 PM PST by EdJay
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