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Posted on 10/17/2006 1:09:34 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Alter Kaker
Not me. I only smoke the cigarettes that are bad for pregnant women. You got to read the side of the pack to make sure you get the right one.
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:46:17 PM PDT
by
CougarGA7
(This tag line will be commercial free for the remainder of this thread.)
To: Tokra
...and from 1942:
42
posted on
10/17/2006 1:46:34 PM PDT
by
Tokra
(I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
To: dmz
engage your mind
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:46:56 PM PDT
by
Rakkasan1
((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
To: dmz
100% of orange juice drinkers die. But they don't die from the orange juice!
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:47:23 PM PDT
by
Tokra
(I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
To: Trampled by Lambs
My father and Uncle also a life long smokers died from COPD. It truly is a horrible way to die. What people don't seem to understand is that although they eventually do drown the death is slow. Kidney failure, muscle atrophy, etc. The body just withers away. Very sad.
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:48:22 PM PDT
by
gov_bean_ counter
( I am sitting under my cone of silence, inside a copper wire cage wearing a tin foil hat...)
To: petitfour
Not to mention that the cost of end-of-life care for a smoker dying of smoking-related illness is generally much LOWER than a non-smoker who gradually dies of old age with all of its associated ailments.
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:48:45 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
To: Toby06
I'd bet money that you have never visited a chronic hospital's trach ward.
Have you ever even met a tracheotomy patient? Have you ever seen a person who has to breathe with 100% mechanical support?
You would not jest about this subject so readily after watching just a couple of patients being suctioned mechanically because their own bodies lack the capacity to move their lung secretions.
I read that 15% percent of all people are predisposed to certain types of COPD. That fraction of people who elect to smoke cigarettes are certainly headed for years of absolute misery because of that choice.
Maybe you are in that 15%, and maybe not, but your snide comments do no good for the people who were possibly just as arrogant concerning their prospects of ever becoming a COPDer. I'm certain that the family members of such victims would largely concur.
On the other hand, I'm going to be buying a really nice new car soon.I have my own personal relationship with a few COPDers. I take care of them, and I make a good living.
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:49:36 PM PDT
by
Radix
(This is my Tag Line.)
To: Old Professer
36% of all the subjects died; 1.25% of all died of COPD; COPD isn't primarily a killer, although it clearly kills. It debilitates, ruining quality of life.
How many of the other 34.75% who died died of smoking related ailments, I wonder?
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:50:27 PM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
To: Radix
I'd bet money that you have never visited a chronic hospital's trach ward.Pay up, sucker!
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:50:57 PM PDT
by
Toby06
To: Alter Kaker
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:52:28 PM PDT
by
svcw
To: wagglebee
Yes, but 25% will DIE. In 'meat & potato' terms....1 IN 4 WILL DIE THAT SMOKE.
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:52:49 PM PDT
by
maineman
To: svcw
conclusively?Yes. Conclusively.
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:53:30 PM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
To: wagglebee
Just wait til it gets so bad that you have quit because of Emphysema, COPD and a lung gone. As is the case here
Nicotine was the hardest for me to quit and as usual I wheeze and cough when I try to do anything except sleep. And sometimes even than. If the government didn't make so much in taxes on it they would outlaw it.
To: L98Fiero
SMOKE UP!!!
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:55:31 PM PDT
by
maineman
To: zarf
"If people would take better care of their health, maybe those of us who do wouldn't have to subsidize those would constantly go to the doctor for avoidable problems driving up our insurance rates." Sounds like a deal....just stop using the jogging tracks, sidewalks, public swimming pools, parks etc. that we smokers have subsidized in tobacco taxes, and we'll be able to subsidize our own health care.
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:56:02 PM PDT
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
To: maineman
How's this?
"One in one will die who eat, drink and breath."
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:56:44 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
To: Toby06
You should not joke like that.
I know it is just a web site, but ...the stuff is killer.
When I was younger, I used to be unconcerned about the health hazards of ...well anything.
Nowadays, I see lots of folks expire who might have lived many years longer if they had made certain different choices.
I recently learned that I am soon to be a grandfather.
I want to enjoy some of that.
Many of the people that I see regularly, will never have that opportunity. It is sad.
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:57:41 PM PDT
by
Radix
(This is my Tag Line.)
To: wagglebee
You said: Which means that 75% NEVER HAVE A PROBLEM, so why not report it that way?!
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I don't smoke, never have. I don't who else does, that's a personal choice. But a 25% chance of a pretty crummy disease might bother me if were considering smoking. Sure, 75% chance of no lung disease, but I'm not sure what other risks I would take at 25% chance. If 25% of those who crossed the street were killed by cars, would you cross? If 25% of those who ate peanut butter sandwiches choked to death, would you choose another kind of sandwich?
Those odds don't sound too good when you are talking about a risk to your life. Then again, each of us gets to choose.
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:58:57 PM PDT
by
NCLaw441
To: trumandogz
There are a lot of other diseases smokers get. Losing your teeth is not even considered a disease but it's pretty common.
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:59:18 PM PDT
by
DungeonMaster
(Man defiles a rock when he chips it with a tool. Ex 20:25)
To: Alter Kaker
I would hope they tracked more information than what is published here.
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posted on
10/17/2006 1:59:39 PM PDT
by
Old Professer
(The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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