Posted on 09/26/2006 12:45:51 AM PDT by SheLion
You mean me??? I am definetly not an anti-smoker.
But you sure are right about people being anti-smoking and a free republican! It can't be done!!!! No wonder our party is divided. With people like these, we sure have an uphill battle on our hands!
What a waste of bandwidth!!!
Around here, when people are incarcerated in nursing homes the institution takes over their benefits and they don't have any money for gum, cigarettes, or anything else. Then the local docs begin their parades through, whereby they bill everyone in the place in one fell swoop. Podiatritists and Psychiatrists are known offenders. People can't have what they want. Instead they are exploited by that great euphemism, "health care."
Up here in Maine, they have the Aroostook County Home Health care. They do everything they can to keep people out of nursing homes. They send out nurses to your home, and housekeepers. It's a wonderful program.
Even is a person is confined to their bed, they will send someone out to help them. Run errands, feed them and help with their meds.
I know I bitch a lot about Maine, but you sure can't beat their health care!!!
However, you do not have to pay ALL your income to the nursing home each month. You may keep:
* $59 a month for personal needs such as clothes, toiletries, sundries, etc.(This amount is increased each year in July based on increases in the cost of living adjustment).
* An amount to give to your spouse or other dependent who lives at home for a support allowance. (This important point is explained in more detail below.)
* Amounts to pay for medical items that Medicaid doesn't cover. For example, if you lose a new hearing aid that Medicaid has just paid for, Medicaid may not pay for another hearing aid right away. You can use your monthly income to replace the hearing aid instead of paying the nursing home.
* Any single wartime veteran or surviving spouse of a wartime veteran may be entitled to a pension (currently $90 month) in addition to his/her personal needs allowance.
* A limited home maintenance allowance to pay for certain expenses, including rent or mortgage, for up to 6 months, if you are reasonably expected to return home within that period of time.
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http://www.larcc.org/pamphlets/elderly/pay_nursinghome_t19.htm
at todays prices $60 doesn't buy too much, perhaps they can roll their own.
It sometimes takes a large amount of data to beging to offset the large amount of denial that happens on these threads.
Smoking in nursing homes is a serious safety issue that cannot be ignored.
Do you honestly think we care??? Do you honestly think we take time to READ all of that?
I think not.
But it must give you great pleasure to post all that diatribe.
Smokers care about people burning to death? Heavens no. I wouldn't think that smokers care about anything but being able to smoke wherever and whenever they get the urge.
Dream on. That may be the rule, but it is not the practice here. A lot of patients are vulnerable and hardly able to read the fine print and defend themselves against nurse Kratchit types. Their checks are just direct deposited to the nursing home. On neighbor told her doctor that she would jump off a bridge before she went back to a nursing home. Of course, this is Florida where milking the Medicare money machine is a finely tuned racket.
I was able to get my neighbor the kind of help you sugget, but there were lots of problems partly because home health ws staffed by welfare-to work personnel with poor work ethics. Even still, it took several neighbors and friends to stay on top of her needs. In the end, her public services cost about $600/mo to stay at home, as she wanted, versus $3000/mo for a nursing home she did not want.
Guess where it is, Ray.
When you can't guess I'll tell you.
When it took this page an hour to load, I figured you had made a post.
Just give me one URL where old people are "burning to death." You are dreaming.
In a smoker's car that has been drinking all night at the pub?
Amazing powers of denial.
Good lord, she must not have very good health insurance. I have Tricare Prime, through the military and all I pay for co-pay is $12.00. I sure am luck AND thankful to have Tricare!
If I have to go to the hospital, it only cost me $11 dollars a day, and that covers all tests, food, room, everything. They can't charge me more then $11 dollars a day!
An ambulance call is over $200 dollars but all I would have to pay is $20.00. Nice, eh?
"In a smoker's car that has been drinking all night at the pub?"
That's rich, even for you. Don't you have some schedule C's to falsify, or something?
I was able to get my neighbor the kind of help you sugget, but there were lots of problems partly because home health ws staffed by welfare-to work personnel with poor work ethics. Even still, it took several neighbors and friends to stay on top of her needs. In the end, her public services cost about $600/mo to stay at home, as she wanted, versus $3000/mo for a nursing home she did not want.
Your neighbor is lucky to have you. I know she appreciates all you do and have done for her!!!!!
Isn't it sickening??? As IF we are going to read all that garbage. Gawd!
(Sure is a sick way to get off. LOL)
YOU are in denial Ray. Denial of how many in here can't STAND your guts!
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