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Hey! FR. Veronica and I were Quoted in VARIETY!!!
VARIETY ^ | July 31, 2006 | Hildy

Posted on 07/31/2006 4:43:47 PM PDT by Hildy

On Saturday, Gibson released a statement apologizing:

"After drinking alcohol on Thursday night, I did a number of things that were very wrong and for which I am ashamed. I drove a car when I should not have, and was stopped by the L.A. County Sheriffs. The arresting officer was just doing his job and I feel fortunate that I was apprehended before I caused injury to any other person. I acted like a person completely out of control when I was arrested, and said things that I do not believe to be true and which are despicable. I am deeply ashamed of everything I said, and I apologize to anyone who I have offended. Also, I take this opportunity to apologize to the deputies involved for my belligerent behavior. They have always been there for me in my community and indeed probably saved me from myself. I disgraced myself and my family with my behavior and for that I am truly sorry." <> He went on in the statement to say that he has had substance abuse problems in the past. "I have battled with the disease of alcoholism for all of my adult life and profoundly regret my horrific relapse. I apologize for any behavior unbecoming of me in my inebriated state and have already taken necessary steps to ensure my return to health," Gibson said.

The ADL's Foxman, however, was unmoved by the apology. In his own statement, released Sunday, he said, "Mel Gibson's apology is unremorseful and insufficient. It's not a proper apology because it does not go to the essence of his bigotry and his anti-Semitism. His tirade finally reveals his true self and shows that his protestations during the debate over his film 'The Passion of the Christ,' that he is such a tolerant, loving person, were a sham. ... It is unfortunate that it took an excess of booze and an encounter with a traffic cop to reveal what was really in his heart and mind. We would hope that Hollywood now would realize the bigot in their midst and that they will distance themselves from this anti-Semite."

And there were signs that even Gibson's conservative Christian fans were not moved by the response. Reaction in the popular conservative online forum FreeRepublic.com, was also largely negative. In response to the statement, one commenter posted, "Gibson showed his true colors last night during his arrest. I argued with you about 'The Passion of the Christ' and his portrayal of Jews. I stood up for Gibson to you and a number of my Jewish friends. Now, I'm sorry I did."

Another, responding to hopeful comments that Gibson can still change his views, wrote, "Lots of denial going on here. It's difficult when your hero falls so far."


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To: SJackson

You know, this whole conversation, who's a Jew, is sick. But it's part of the forum, isn't it. Someone need to clue Variety in.
__________________________
Outside of the posts the last hour or so here - and the original question that has been taken terribly out of context - I don't see what you're talking about on this forum. I see a huge amount of respect for the Jewish faith, Jewish people, and Israel above all. I'm a little surprised at the direction you seem to be taking this....


381 posted on 07/31/2006 8:45:11 PM PDT by justche (If you're afraid of the future, then get out of the way, stand aside. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Hildy
Remind me of your post reprimanding everyone who derided Patrick Kennedy when he relapsed...I'll wait your reply.

He did? I post here 5 or 6 days a week. I must have missed that. Patrick Kennedy, FR missed that. Probably cause he was a DUI liberal.

382 posted on 07/31/2006 8:45:13 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: Hildy

what have I said that was insulting??


383 posted on 07/31/2006 8:45:21 PM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: Peach
Peach, peach, peach ~ many people put the behavior first, noting, of course, that drunks spew all sorts of garbage, most of it not terribly meaningful.

That's not a defense of the garbage, nor is it an argument to get him off the hook.

Did you see how lenient California law is on DUI? That's a scandal.

384 posted on 07/31/2006 8:45:53 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: Hildy
Remind me of your post reprimanding everyone who derided Patrick Kennedy when he relapsed...I'll wait your reply.

Nice try. You've been around here long enough to know that you've posted another flamebait thread. Enjoy the results, I doubt they'll be to your liking.

Click.

385 posted on 07/31/2006 8:46:04 PM PDT by nunya bidness (Listen when the prophet speaks to you. Killing in the name of God.)
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To: Mo1

They'd have liked having a quote from a "conservative Christian" because that's the group that the Variety crowd hates the most. That's why the quote was so effective for Variety's purposes.


386 posted on 07/31/2006 8:46:51 PM PDT by Mamzelle (in vino, veritas)
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To: muawiyah

You really think CA is lenient for DUI???????


387 posted on 07/31/2006 8:47:16 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Mamzelle

If you could give a quote to Variety about Gibson's situation, what would it be?


388 posted on 07/31/2006 8:48:59 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: justche
You know, this whole conversation, who's a Jew, is sick. But it's part of the forum, isn't it. Someone need to clue Variety in. __________________________ Outside of the posts the last hour or so here - and the original question that has been taken terribly out of context - I don't see what you're talking about on this forum. I see a huge amount of respect for the Jewish faith, Jewish people, and Israel above all. I'm a little surprised at the direction you seem to be taking this....

The comment related to the importance of identifying Jews who post here.

The issue raised was Variety's apparent failure to note that the posters on Freerepublic they referenced, not by name, were Jewish. This apparently upsets some people here. That's not a new issue.

I'm happy to discuss the issue, but I'm going to assume you weren't aware of the entire context.

In my view, it's not particularly important to identify the religion of posters, if it was they'd add religious symbols to the state flags.

389 posted on 07/31/2006 8:49:48 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: Mo1

Oh, okay, I gotcha. I didn't go looking through those links you gave me to see if that's where her quote came from. Thanks.

It does then look at though Variety made a point of, well, lying. It makes them look more agenda-driven than I already thought they were. LOL


390 posted on 07/31/2006 8:50:21 PM PDT by Peach (Prayers for Israel and all who love her.)
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To: Chanticleer

I asked a friend from WVa, he never heard of the term. I don't know what it means, I guess Oreo is a close as anything.


391 posted on 07/31/2006 8:51:53 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: Peach
some of the freepers who are the most disappointed in him defended him against these very charges when the movie The Passion was made.

There's a distinction to be made. Mel Gibson is anti-semitic. The Passion Of The Christ is not, despite the media insisting it was.

392 posted on 07/31/2006 8:52:08 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Mamzelle
I've tried to bait the "denounce the Passion" crowd with a reference to "The Road Warrior" where it starts off snuffing a little kid on a highway.

It would seem no one on any side of the issue gives a doggone about snuffing kids.

My wife still cares about that kid. We'd rented the movie and 10 minutes into it she sent it on its way back to Erol's Video.

If it shows up on TV, the TV gets turned off ~ all the TVs go off. Power switches are thrown.

Now why is it my wife cares and no one else here does?

393 posted on 07/31/2006 8:52:31 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Having never seen the movie, I'll just assume that's right.

OT: CNN - huge celebrations in Cuba because Castro has handed over power to his brother as he undergoes surgery.


394 posted on 07/31/2006 8:53:56 PM PDT by Peach (Prayers for Israel and all who love her.)
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To: Hildy

Not everyone is panting to be interviewed. I'd certainly not be happy to find my words distorted by a frivolous Hollywood MSM rag, nor would I like to see FR treated that way. In no wise would I trust the likes of Variety.


395 posted on 07/31/2006 8:54:22 PM PDT by Mamzelle (in vino, veritas)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Says you. Alot of people said it was...and him saying what he said the other night does not bolster his claim that he had no agenda to make it anti-semetic. What is so hard to understand about that?


396 posted on 07/31/2006 8:55:38 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: nopardons; JeanS
This thread is entirely too complex for any troll to figure out how to disrupt.

It takes a master ~ an experienced Freeper ~ to do that.

Say, hey, how 'bout that Castro. Getting his guts cut tonight I hear. Good news eh!?

397 posted on 07/31/2006 8:56:09 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: Hildy
Don't pat yourself on the back too hard. You have a HUGE blind spot when it comes to intolerance and hatred. You very selectively single out certain anti-semites for scorn while giving others a wide berth.

I am not surprised that Hollywood would find your venom much to its taste.

398 posted on 07/31/2006 8:56:36 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Mamzelle

I WASN'T INTERVIEWED...you said the reason they chose my post was to bolster their viewpoint. So I was INNOCENTLY asking you what you would have liked them to say.


399 posted on 07/31/2006 8:56:53 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: JCEccles
You have a HUGE blind spot when it comes to intolerance and hatred

Since you made the accusation, please elaborate.

400 posted on 07/31/2006 8:58:19 PM PDT by Hildy
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