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Hey! FR. Veronica and I were Quoted in VARIETY!!!
VARIETY ^ | July 31, 2006 | Hildy

Posted on 07/31/2006 4:43:47 PM PDT by Hildy

On Saturday, Gibson released a statement apologizing:

"After drinking alcohol on Thursday night, I did a number of things that were very wrong and for which I am ashamed. I drove a car when I should not have, and was stopped by the L.A. County Sheriffs. The arresting officer was just doing his job and I feel fortunate that I was apprehended before I caused injury to any other person. I acted like a person completely out of control when I was arrested, and said things that I do not believe to be true and which are despicable. I am deeply ashamed of everything I said, and I apologize to anyone who I have offended. Also, I take this opportunity to apologize to the deputies involved for my belligerent behavior. They have always been there for me in my community and indeed probably saved me from myself. I disgraced myself and my family with my behavior and for that I am truly sorry." <> He went on in the statement to say that he has had substance abuse problems in the past. "I have battled with the disease of alcoholism for all of my adult life and profoundly regret my horrific relapse. I apologize for any behavior unbecoming of me in my inebriated state and have already taken necessary steps to ensure my return to health," Gibson said.

The ADL's Foxman, however, was unmoved by the apology. In his own statement, released Sunday, he said, "Mel Gibson's apology is unremorseful and insufficient. It's not a proper apology because it does not go to the essence of his bigotry and his anti-Semitism. His tirade finally reveals his true self and shows that his protestations during the debate over his film 'The Passion of the Christ,' that he is such a tolerant, loving person, were a sham. ... It is unfortunate that it took an excess of booze and an encounter with a traffic cop to reveal what was really in his heart and mind. We would hope that Hollywood now would realize the bigot in their midst and that they will distance themselves from this anti-Semite."

And there were signs that even Gibson's conservative Christian fans were not moved by the response. Reaction in the popular conservative online forum FreeRepublic.com, was also largely negative. In response to the statement, one commenter posted, "Gibson showed his true colors last night during his arrest. I argued with you about 'The Passion of the Christ' and his portrayal of Jews. I stood up for Gibson to you and a number of my Jewish friends. Now, I'm sorry I did."

Another, responding to hopeful comments that Gibson can still change his views, wrote, "Lots of denial going on here. It's difficult when your hero falls so far."


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To: Mamzelle

But how do you know what "they" really want? I'd say you're guessing at best. Motives are hard to figure out under most circumstances, but in a forum like this we can only speculate what others want.


301 posted on 07/31/2006 7:41:05 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
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To: Mamzelle

Exactly

THAT is the undertone

Thank you


302 posted on 07/31/2006 7:41:34 PM PDT by StephenTX
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To: JeanS
You were on a couple of the threads...go reread them.

You DO know the rule against using past threads/fights on old threads...don't you? And you're asking me to break FR's rules?

303 posted on 07/31/2006 7:43:31 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Mamzelle
What they really want is for us to denounce The Passion.

You've been hitting all the nails tonight. What bothers me about all of the media attention is that everyone seems to forget that just about now every thing that can go wrong has gone wrong in the ME and Israel and consequently, 'Jews', are on the chopping block. I doubt Gibson is an anti-Semite, though he certainly has some reason to be anti-Zionist when he has had to tolerate Abe Foxman all these years.

304 posted on 07/31/2006 7:44:39 PM PDT by harrowup (I have a NASsCAR now; betteren my first, but not the bestest.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Yeah, but the next freeper might not!


305 posted on 07/31/2006 7:45:02 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: stands2reason

Good point!


306 posted on 07/31/2006 7:47:53 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
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To: nopardons
You DO know the rule against using past threads/fights on old threads...don't you? And you're asking me to break FR's rules?

LOL, you're killing me. You can accuse posters of being trolls but you can't mention their names because their posts were on other threads.

307 posted on 07/31/2006 7:48:17 PM PDT by Jean S
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308 posted on 07/31/2006 7:50:38 PM PDT by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
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To: Mo1

I'm not really big on criminal prosecution of hate speech, so you're right about the judge part.


309 posted on 07/31/2006 7:51:56 PM PDT by Peach (Prayers for Israel and all who love her.)
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To: SJackson
I am not tracking this well. What's a LEO?

The police report -- my understanding is that there was no mention of the things he said on the police report, leading some to accuse police of doctoring the report. I heard that this morning... has it changed?

Reinvent himself? That's PR. I'm not interested in him reinventing himself, but I do believe God can recreate us, forgive us, make us new. This requires real repentence, and I'm not sure he's there yet, but I can keep praying.

Pop -- you mean his father? Was that quote from Mel or his father? When was it said?

The sentiments are sadly not new.

310 posted on 07/31/2006 7:52:45 PM PDT by Chanticleer (Courage is not simply one of the virtues but the form of every virtue at the testing point. Lewis)
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To: StephenTX

I think even if Gibson hadn't done The Passion, he was still a big enough star that this would have made news. Big news.

Look at Charlie Sheen (sp?) - he's basically a nobody and every time he's in trouble, it's all over the news.


311 posted on 07/31/2006 7:52:57 PM PDT by Peach (Prayers for Israel and all who love her.)
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To: Hildy
Hildy, your word of the day is "perspective."

Mel is an asshole for making anti-Semitic remarks while drunk. But he's a bigger asshole for driving drunk and jeopardizing the lives of people. Meanwhile, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson make anti-Semitic statements, while SOBER, and get their wrists slapped.

Cool off and think.
312 posted on 07/31/2006 7:54:03 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Texasforever
There is also a rule against telling other freepers to "go to hell". Do you want that one enforced?

No answer.

(Sound of crickets chirping)

313 posted on 07/31/2006 7:54:37 PM PDT by what's up
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To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName

Too Funny!!!


314 posted on 07/31/2006 7:54:49 PM PDT by justche (If you're afraid of the future, then get out of the way, stand aside. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: JeanS
I have caught many a troll on FR, through the years and they've been ZOTTED.

I did NOT call anyone, on this thread, a troll. Neither have I called any Patsie a troll.

OTOH, what I posted and what YOU CCPed, happens to be the factual truth and when you claim something else, as you are doing now, ones must wonder as to why that is. I also wonder why you are asking me to do something which YOU must know is against FR's rules.

You'll have to try much harder, to get me to do something that can get me suspended or banned. I'm NOT falling for this ploy!

315 posted on 07/31/2006 7:56:21 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: justche

Wonder if somebody in the entertainment business here on FR knows somebody on the masthead of Variety? A phone call, an email...and suddenly we're the Poster Child of denouncing someone that Hollywood already hated.


316 posted on 07/31/2006 7:57:12 PM PDT by Mamzelle (in vino, veritas)
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To: Peach

I'm not convinced
I agree that when when Hollyweird messes up we all get a good laugh

I'm not laughing over this and things that are being said
The guy is messed up and I disagree with his politics completely

Of course as a Christian I am use to being made fun and or snickered at behind my back and being called a religious fanatic so.....


317 posted on 07/31/2006 7:57:27 PM PDT by StephenTX
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To: StephenTX

I hear you.


318 posted on 07/31/2006 7:59:22 PM PDT by Peach (Prayers for Israel and all who love her.)
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To: Mamzelle

Are we starting a revolution?


319 posted on 07/31/2006 7:59:53 PM PDT by StephenTX
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To: Hildy
....people here at FR weren't so sensitive to the disease of alcoholism when Patrick Kennedy had his little run in with some traffic cones a few months back. What a bunch of hypocrites!


You didn't stay in the thinking mode long enough obviously.

You don't suppose it could be because Patrick Kennedy was a repeat offender,alcohol and drugs, many times over just like his father, do you?[sarc]
320 posted on 07/31/2006 8:01:49 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (Spreading the truth - Doing the job the MSM won't do!)
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