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To: freedumb2003

Ignatz was accused of being a scientific illiterate. How many "scientific illiterates" do you think work as engineers. Do you know how much science is in an engineering curriculum? It's not what is usually construed as a "trade." That canard is just another example of the sneering, supercilious attitude so prevalent among the evoids. Ignatz also pointed out that he read a great deal of science.
I then asked how many of the evo-obsessed actually here do original research. No one has answered. People who do creative research don't spend all their time indoctrinating people and suppressing dissent; they look for breakthroughs. In many sciences, the ultimate thrill would be to overthrow established theory and supercede it. Not here, among the evoids, who wallow in the status quo.


1,000 posted on 07/28/2006 4:47:32 PM PDT by hellbender
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Ignatz was accused of being a scientific illiterate. How many "scientific illiterates" do you think work as engineers. Do you know how much science is in an engineering curriculum?

I don't know -- lets ask him. Last time I looked a network engineer doesn't need an engineering degree. I should know -- I have been Operations Director for a very large mainframe shop, which included Systems, LAN, Telecommunications, Applications and Machine Ops.

ps: It is rude to speak of someone, even if defending them, without pinging them.

1,004 posted on 07/28/2006 4:53:25 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (A Conservative will die for individual freedom. A Liberal will kill you for the good of society.)
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. . . wallow in the status quo.

There is a certain charm to the Dark Ages. Mystery, superstition and all that. And who cannot commend the scientifically brilliant idea that, because certain things look alike, they must be related? To have a billion year fairly tale to create and recreate as many times as one wishes, be honored as "scientists," and enjoy exclusive government support by law: who wouldn't want that?

1,008 posted on 07/28/2006 4:56:54 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: hellbender
I then asked how many of the evo-obsessed actually here do original research. No one has answered. People who do creative research don't spend all their time indoctrinating people and suppressing dissent; they look for breakthroughs. In many sciences, the ultimate thrill would be to overthrow established theory and supercede it. Not here, among the evoids, who wallow in the status quo.

Its not particularly germaine to the discussion at hand. I agree with you and there are those who are looking for The Unified Theory Of Everything.

Trying to find scientific alternatives to current theories helps keep dogma minimized (a fate predicted by Asimov). ID is not one of those pursuits.

1,009 posted on 07/28/2006 4:57:10 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (A Conservative will die for individual freedom. A Liberal will kill you for the good of society.)
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To: hellbender

How many "scientific illiterates" do you think work as engineers.

Many.

Do you know how much science is in an engineering curriculum?

Yes, I do, and the answer is none. Engineering is applied science for economic gain. It is not the practice of science. Engineering is not concerned with exploring the unknown, it is concerned with applying accepted scientific knowledge for economic gain. Applying scientific theories to produce economically profitable products is not 'science'.

1,048 posted on 07/28/2006 5:45:04 PM PDT by ml1954
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To: hellbender
In many sciences, the ultimate thrill would be to overthrow established theory and supercede it.

EXACTLY! Frankly it would be wonderful if evolution were overthrown. (If there were a genuinely superior theory out there, even though I happen to doubt it, it would be exciting to be proved wrong.)

Unfortunately the antievos won't even try to come up with a better theory, or with (genuine) evidence falsifying evolution. They're too busy harassing school boards and science teachers and developing vacuous "wedge" entities like ID. Alas.

1,112 posted on 07/28/2006 7:21:11 PM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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