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To: stand watie; cowboyway; LeoWindhorse; M. Espinola; Donald Meaker; Colonel Kangaroo

This post is for those of you who simply can't fathom your precious Lincoln as the war monger he was. Sit down and LISTEN-Lincoln was a South-Hater. He wanted to destroy it. ONE OF HIS 2WICE Generals, McClellan, had a plan to end the war in a couple months. LINCOLN BABY said NO, "I want to bring the South to her knees". And he did. How much does it take to realize that a President of the U.S. is sworn to PROTECT his country, not war against it. DUH! Lincoln warred AGAINST his own country. Lincoln warred against his own country! Any of the lame reasons existing simply don't matter a whit. He was sworn to protect his country and HE DIDN'T DO THAT! NEED ANOTHER PICTURE? TOUGH. I'M NOT GIVING ANOTHER! GET A GRIP! He was a creep! FACE IT! Stop arguing and take him off that silly pedestal you have him on! And stop thinking you are so clever when you ask for proof! It's right out in the open. HE WARRED AGAINST HIS OWN COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


804 posted on 07/20/2006 10:09:49 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
And stop thinking you are so clever when you ask for proof!

The Reb baiters don't give a damn about proof. I've posted numerous links, excerpts from books, etc. (as have you and others) but they either ignore or deny their validity.

They much prefer slanderous personal attacks than honest debate.

807 posted on 07/20/2006 10:32:19 AM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
Too much coffee this morning?

So, tell us, what was McClellan's brilliant plan that would have ended the war in a couple of months? His best idea was the Penninsula Campaign, and we can all see how his dithering and timidity blew that very real opportunity. The "bring the south to her knees" line is usually attributed to Sherman. What's the source for Lincoln saying it? Or are you going to go off on one of your "I'm not responsible for backing up my assertions" tizzies?

Lincoln warred AGAINST his own country. Lincoln warred against his own country!

But I thought that the south claimed to be another country. Again you're wanting to have your American cake and secede from it, too.

808 posted on 07/20/2006 10:48:06 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
EXACTLY! because of "mr. linkum's" PERFIDITY, EGOMANIA & CRUELTY, a MILLION PEOPLE DIED in his needLESS war against the southland.

free dixie,sw

816 posted on 07/20/2006 2:12:47 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
This post is for those of you who simply can't fathom your precious Lincoln as the war monger he was. Sit down and LISTEN-Lincoln was a South-Hater. He wanted to destroy it. ONE OF HIS 2WICE Generals, McClellan, had a plan to end the war in a couple months. LINCOLN BABY said NO, "I want to bring the South to her knees". And he did. How much does it take to realize that a President of the U.S. is sworn to PROTECT his country, not war against it. DUH! Lincoln warred AGAINST his own country. Lincoln warred against his own country! Any of the lame reasons existing simply don't matter a whit. He was sworn to protect his country and HE DIDN'T DO THAT! NEED ANOTHER PICTURE? TOUGH. I'M NOT GIVING ANOTHER! GET A GRIP! He was a creep! FACE IT! Stop arguing and take him off that silly pedestal you have him on! And stop thinking you are so clever when you ask for proof! It's right out in the open. HE WARRED AGAINST HIS OWN COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So how long did it take you to make up that pile of nonsense anyway?

828 posted on 07/20/2006 5:12:28 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin

So: your opinion is that Lincoln sacked McClellan for being too aggressive?

If so, when did McClellan show this aggressiveness?





837 posted on 07/20/2006 5:59:54 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (Boy, that Rondell fellow plays all over the ice, eh?)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin

Do you have even a smidgeon of evidence for these bold assertions?

These are wonderful assertions. They must be backed by equally wonderful evidence, so they will be all the more convincing.

I also wish to point out how impressed I am with your scholarly tone.


839 posted on 07/20/2006 7:17:34 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (Boy, that Rondell fellow plays all over the ice, eh?)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin

Have a little respect for Old Abe, know what I mean?

840 posted on 07/20/2006 8:03:10 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
LINCOLN BABY said NO, "I want to bring the South to her knees"

Considering that the normal position of the racist, slave-owning, ignorant and backward South was face down in the mud, Lincoln was pretty generous to want to lift the South up to her knees.

901 posted on 07/21/2006 10:02:06 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
I want to clarify one thing about by statement of the South being content to live inert in the mud of a hog pen. I'm not talking of the Southern people who didn't bow the knee to the Confederate slave power, nor the South of the oppressed slaves nor even the South of the misled and misused Confederate rank and file. I'm talking about the degenerate slave-holding mentality that ran the Confederate show for their own private benefit.

Even Lee recognized the degrading nature of the institution.

Too bad Reconstruction did not permanently break the power of the Southern "elite". Almost everyone would have been better off.

903 posted on 07/21/2006 10:27:59 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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