Posted on 07/06/2006 7:01:52 AM PDT by SquirrelKing
Bear in mind that for the North, torture was an aberation. For the South, it was business as usual.
For people from the north, taking part in the slave trade was despicable. For the south, it was the peak of the social pyramid. Most honored in the North was the successful business man. Most despised in the south was the man who had to work.
During the Civil War, students in the North continued to attend school, artists continued to produce, industry continued to operate. In the south, all matter of productive activity was put on hold. Newspapers were never allowed to protest against the foolish war that the South began, or the illegal compact between several slaver dominated state governments that began the succession crisis.
Rape by Northern whites was horrible, and is to be condemned. Rape by Southern whites was a standard practice, and was thought to be good policy.
We are well shut of that culture. The cost paid was not too much to be rid of it.
My first pickup truck had a bumper sticker on it that read, "Welcome to Texas! Now Go Home!"
1. tried by a military tribunal that had NO lawful jurisdiction to try him,
2. on SUBBORNED evidence, which at the time of the courts martial, was KNOWN to be PERJURY.
3.denied the right to call witnesses on his behalf OR to cross-examine the "witnesses" called to testify against him,
4. UNlawfully sentenced to hang, for crimes which he was NOT even PRESENT at the time of (much less guilty of)AND
5.executed (we southerners call it LYNCHED!), after being denied the lawful rights of any other condemned federal/military prisoner (including, that he was NOT allowed to make his confession to a Catholic priest, as REQUIRED by his faith, and was even denied a burial in the local Catholic cemetery!).
i wouldn't mention CPT Wurtz if i were you, as it makes you look either IGNORANT, filled with HATE and/or UNtruthful.
free dixie,sw
stick to that, as everything else you post is BIGOTED, filled with IGNORANCE of the facts, embarrassingly DUMB & makes us ALL look bad,just being on the same forum with YOU!
are you SURE you aren't a LITTLE TROLL (over from DU), pretending to be a FReeper???? (i'm, for one person, NOT at all sure that you are NOT just a TROLL!)
head over to DU, where REVISIONISTS,trolls, fools & BIGOTS dwell. you will NOT be missed on FR.
free dixie,sw
we have enough LOUD-mouthed, stupid,idiots down here, already.
free dixie,sw
in point of fact, decent people everywhere in the USA despised the "slave-traders" as "socially unacceptable", in the antebellum period. such persons would NOT have been invited to the "Big House" for tea.
otoh, DAMNyankees (who comprised the VAST majority of the persons IN the "slave trade") were from new england.
"new englanders":
1. bought slaves at their barracoons in West Africa,
2.OWNED the ships that brought the Africans here,
3.CAPTAINED/crewed the slave ships,
4. sold the slaves at auction,
5.financed the sales &
6.were conceded internationally to be "the leading lights" of the "flesh business" from the very first days of the "peculiar institution".
"yankees" from new england have FOREVER been money-hungry,SANCTIMONIOUS, HYPOCRITES! ONLY after importation of new slaves from abroad was OUTLAWED, did the "DYs" decide that slavery was WRONG!
free dixie,sw
I wish Reconstruction could have been so conducted and extended so the sanctimonious New England effect on Dixie would have been greater and longer-lasting. Maybe the South would not have been so violence-filled, ignorant and poor for so many decades.
There were good men in the South with fine moral instincts, but they were powerless against the slave system without the external infusion of decency that came mainly from New England.
Some years ago, while dining alone in Manhattan, I became intrigued by a conversation, that I couldn't help overhearing, at the next table. A woman was telling a man how she had gone to a far away country as an exchange student and civil war had erupted the day of her arrival; the home in which she was to stay was attacked, before she could finish unpacking; she had to jump out of the window and seek refuge in the wilderness, and she didn't speak the language, wasn't even sure where she was, and had no idea who was on what side... The experience became more and more bizarre as she talked, and it also became obvious that I was listening spellbound, with my jaw on the table. She began to address her conversation to me also, and before I knew it I had joined them at their table. Now that's real New York!
A similar experience happened in California. At the table behind me, I began to overhear a fascinating conversation. An obviously extremely intelligent man was explaining to his wife, an accupuncturist, and to a Benedictine priest from Italy his research into the original documents concerning Jesus. He had translated original texts for himself from ancient Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, and other languages. As he translated these documents he became aware of a powerful persona somewhere within and as the subject of these texts. (I hope I have related his opinion correctly.) Naturally--I turned around and said, "I have got to join this conversation," and moved to their table. All three of them welcomed me. They were delightful. I asked questions, and they sought my opinions. They were all unbelievably courteous and wonderful. I hated to leave them when it was time to go. The man, in fact, was Stephen Mitchell. When his book about Jesus was published, I bought a copy. His translation of the T'ow de Ching is definitive as far as I'm concerned. I've read it countless times.
Wonderful people are everywhere.
Well said, Kanga, and true.
in MANY cases, it was the SAME new england HYPOCRITES, who "railed at" the "peculiar institution", while STILL owning the slave ships AND/OR the banks & insurance companies that PROFITED by the slave trade.
as i said, the SELF-righteous DYs have forever been really good at "do as i say, but not as i do"! (for example,MANY schools in new england are STILL racially SEGREGATED, a HALF CENTURY after Brown v. Board of Ed.)
perhaps, we southerners should send you some FREEDOM RIDERS to help the north DESEGREGATE????
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
i discovered this when a grad student at Tulane. there are MANY records at the African-American Museum, too, that profusely illustrate the FACT of northern HYPOCRASY & deviousness!
free dixie,sw
they were after all, DAMNyankees, so the members of the "coven" on FR defend them unto death.
free dixie,sw
You're a liar. Name one abolitionist who owned slave ships.
If that's the best answer you can make up then I'm not the bonehead in this discussion.
Sure. The day you start providing your's. Let's start with the "100,000 free blacks in confederate army" nonsense.
In terms of your nearly extinct breed of rabid neo-confederate rabble rouser's, just recall those you call "Yankees" by the millions will always out number the tiny crackpot cult of neo-confeds - in your own backyard too, which is naturally a huge improvement.
You're living proof! LOL
You have to admit that it is a logical explanation.
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