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To: shuckmaster

Out of curiousity, tell me the three CONCRETE observations that persuade you that all living things evolved from non-life and/or a strand of rna/dna.

Hey, I'll go first. Here are 3+ observations (among many) that persuade of the necessity of creation and impossibility of evolution:

1. the complexity of vision
2. the complexity and fragility of rna/dna
3. ditto for the simplest cell capable of reproducing itself
4. sexual reproduction -- who went first?
5. if humans "evolved" due to superiority in the survival-of-the-fittest race, why did we lose our protective hair? Strength? Precociousness of infants? Basic survival instincts in childbirth, etc.? Makes no sense that a creature inferior in these respects would outcompete the others and, before you tout bigger brains, etc., explain why body hair, etc. came at the cost of bigger brains.

Your turn. And please, no platitudes or generalities


199 posted on 05/12/2006 1:53:23 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: Elpasser
4. sexual reproduction -- who went first?

No problem.


202 posted on 05/12/2006 1:56:36 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Elpasser

"...explain why body hair, etc. came at the cost of bigger brains."

Because humans with less body hair are sexier :)


203 posted on 05/12/2006 1:57:05 PM PDT by cccp_hater (Just the facts please)
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To: Elpasser
1. the complexity of vision


205 posted on 05/12/2006 1:58:13 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Elpasser

Question number 5 is nonsense. There is no axiomatic definition of fitness. Fitness is simply an after the fact description of the traits leading to reproductive success. Much of animal evolution is driven by traits the girls think are cute.


209 posted on 05/12/2006 2:01:16 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Elpasser

Forgive me for asking, but where did you receive your "rigorous education in organic chemistry and biological science?"


210 posted on 05/12/2006 2:01:21 PM PDT by atlaw
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To: Elpasser

I asked:

"Out of curiousity, tell me the three CONCRETE observations that persuade you that all living things evolved from non-life and/or a strand of rna/dna."

Other than a critiquing of MY most persuasive observations in favor of creationism, I received
...NOTHING, NADA.
As I anticipated.


226 posted on 05/12/2006 2:23:42 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: Elpasser
5. if humans "evolved" due to superiority in the survival-of-the-fittest race, why did we lose our protective hair? Strength? Precociousness of infants? Basic survival instincts in childbirth, etc.? Makes no sense that a creature inferior in these respects would outcompete the others and, before you tout bigger brains, etc., explain why body hair, etc. came at the cost of bigger brains.

5. if humans were created by a perfect God, why did He omit our protective hair? Strength? Precociousness of infants? Basic survival instincts in childbirth, etc.? Makes no sense that a creature inferior in these respects would be created by a perfect God and, before you tout bigger brains, etc., explain why bigger brains, etc. came at the design cost of the loss of hair?

250 posted on 05/12/2006 3:07:48 PM PDT by Thatcherite (Miraculous explanations are just spasmodic omphalism)
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