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To: Elpasser

I asked:

"Out of curiousity, tell me the three CONCRETE observations that persuade you that all living things evolved from non-life and/or a strand of rna/dna."

Other than a critiquing of MY most persuasive observations in favor of creationism, I received
...NOTHING, NADA.
As I anticipated.


226 posted on 05/12/2006 2:23:42 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: Elpasser

Perhaps no one has bothered to answer you, because you have appeared to mix up two ideas into one question, and then you want an answer...and when you dont get one, you act as if you have won the argument...well, you have won nothing at all...

What you have managed to do, is demand concrete observations that persuade that living things evolved from non-life...this of course has to do with how did life begin in the first place and it has nothing to do with evolution of that life, once it exists...

How life began in the first place is a completely different area of study from how living things evolve...

I am not qualified to answer your questions...however, I can see that you are mixing up two questions...
1...how did life begin?... 2. does life evolve and what mechanisms are involved?...

If you want good answers to your questions, there are many on this thread who are more than able to answer your questions...but you have asked two different and separate questions...perhaps no one wants to untangle them for you....


231 posted on 05/12/2006 2:41:23 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: Elpasser
"Out of curiousity, tell me the three CONCRETE observations that persuade you that all living things evolved from non-life and/or a strand of rna/dna."

1) Absence, despite centuries of looking for it, of any verifiable instances of spontaneous generation. (The origin of life from non-life as a mundane process of nature.) Biological organisms only come from preexisting biological organisms.

2) Various considerations, e.g. the Second Law of Thermodynamics, indicating that the universe cannot be infinitely old. If the universe had a beginning, and the solar system, and the earth, etc, then so must biological life.

Well, that's only two. But if life does not spontaneously spring into existence, and biological life has not always existed, then it must have started at some point. It either happened by some sort of creation, or by some sort of chemical evolution. In either case it arose from a NON-BIOLOGICAL source, Q.E.D. Unless you want to argue that God is a biological organism!

241 posted on 05/12/2006 2:59:40 PM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Elpasser
I asked:

"Out of curiousity, tell me the three CONCRETE observations that persuade you that all living things evolved from non-life and/or a strand of rna/dna."

Other than a critiquing of MY most persuasive observations in favor of creationism, I received
...NOTHING, NADA.
As I anticipated.

Odd that you would complain about this, since you DID receive replies to other portions of that post, which you didn't yourself deem worth responding to (except one making a joke about body hair). Those in glass houses...

249 posted on 05/12/2006 3:07:07 PM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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