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To: MamaTexan
"LOL! How is a discussion of history equated with destroying the Nation?"

The South's triggered Civil War was intended to destroy this nation. The South was destroyed thanks to the Dixie political crowd working to maintain and expand slavery westward.

Instead of blaming those which defended America you should be looking at those in the South which ignited the nation to chaos and civil war.

"It has nothing to do with like or dislike. Either the Constitution and the principals for which it stands is the law, or its not."

Old Abe was elected in a legal Presidential Election. Some economic interests in the South decided on civil insurrection in place of law, and were defeated, after massive loss of American lives on both sides of the Civil War.

U.S. presidential election, 1860

Presidential Candidate Electoral Vote Popular Vote Pct Party Running Mate
(Electoral Votes)
Abraham Lincoln of Illinois (W) 180 1,866,452 Republican Hannibal Hamlin of Maine (180)
John C. Breckinridge of Kentucky 72 847,953 Democrat (southern states) Joseph Lane of Oregon (72)
John Bell of Tennessee 39 Constitutional Union (Whig) Edward Everett of Massachusetts (39)
Stephen A. Douglas of Illinois 12 Democrat (northern states) Herschel V. Johnson of Georgia (12)
Other
Total 100.0%

394 posted on 05/16/2006 11:17:53 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola
Instead of blaming those which defended America you should be looking at those in the South which ignited the nation to chaos and civil war.

LOL!

And instead of blindly believing what you've been told, why don't you start with Montague, Locke, Blackstone....you know, all those pesky legal treatise that the Constitution is based on.

Then you can read the Federalist Papers, the Anti-Federalist papers, the ratification debates...then the Constitution.

If you have room for more, you can read George Tucker's View of the Constitution and James Madison's Report on the Virginia Resolutions that he wrote because of the unconstitutional Alien and Sedition Act.

THEN you may have room to lecture me about my statements toward someone who 'saved' the country while destroying the original intent of the Founders!

396 posted on 05/16/2006 11:46:20 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am NOT a * legal entity *, nor am I a ~person~ as created by law!)
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