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Just like the moths in europe that were in my old textbooks. The moths got darker as the pollution/soot got on the trees and made the trees darker. And now that the pollution problems (from the 50's and 60's), the trees are lighter and the moths are getting lighter.

Actually the moths themselves have always been the same color. Its just the NUMBER of moths of "each" color that had changed. Just like these birds.


2 posted on 05/08/2006 1:22:38 PM PDT by geopyg ("I would rather have a clean gov't than one where -quote- 1st Amend. rights are respected." J.McCain)
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To: geopyg
their beaks revert to an intermediate size

So now the birds have a smaller pecker?
3 posted on 05/08/2006 1:23:36 PM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: geopyg
Actually the moths themselves have always been the same color. Its just the NUMBER of moths of "each" color that had changed. Just like these birds.

That's called a change in the allele frequency. In other words, evolution.

20 posted on 05/08/2006 1:36:22 PM PDT by js1138
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To: geopyg

Altruism?


22 posted on 05/08/2006 1:39:25 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: geopyg

This was a fake study. The moths were pinned on the trees for the photos taken and did NOT rest on either light or dark areas per se. Just another fake evolution theory that was totally rigged, and this is a fact you can check if you want to. Most evos know it was fake by now and like to sweep it under the rug, it is embarassing for them to mention it.


34 posted on 05/08/2006 1:51:10 PM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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To: geopyg

Yet both are evidence that evolution takes place.


87 posted on 05/09/2006 5:36:34 AM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: geopyg
I believe it's far beyond reasonable dispute that natural selection plays an important role in how animal species develop over time to better fit environmental niches. An important role, not the decisive role. This apparent reversibility is evidence that some other agent or factor plays the decisive role in selecting the fixed changes that separate the species from one another.

At the same time, it seems entirely unwieldy and unreasonable to posit that ad hoc divine intervention or intelligent design is the decisive factor.

There are other possibilities but the exalted priesthood of Darwin, preaching its atheism-based faith claims ex cathedra from the public schools and court rooms of this nation, has effectively hijacked the power of the state to stifle honest inquiry and science.

Thus, the study of life on this planet remains mired in late 19th Century thinking of a mechanistic clockwork nature.

Someday biological sciences will have to honestly seek to understand the role of intelligence (especially the most neglected component: the context of the observer/interpreter) and make space for information theory in the paradigm of evolution. Great 20th Century minds, including those of Schroedinger and Shannon, have defined a path of inquiry that Darwinists refuse to walk for fear of losing their religion and the power to force it on the rest of us.

91 posted on 05/09/2006 5:59:33 AM PDT by JCEccles (Kitzmiller Syndrome: anger and paranoia that someone is harboring critical thoughts about Darwinism.)
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To: geopyg

You are exactly correct. The birds didn't change, just the observations.


107 posted on 05/09/2006 8:10:02 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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