Posted on 04/24/2006 3:51:25 AM PDT by Perdogg
I still question whether she claimed rape to avoid a drug test ...
Police logs show that the woman was taken to the Duke hospital at 2:31 a.m., after a stop at a substance-abuse center ...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12442765/site/newsweek/page/4/
Didn't one of the searches turn up a bottle of pills? Sure would like to know what they were and whose name was on the bottle.
I think it says "Bills," which would prove occupancy.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0329061duke5.html
Could be "pills" ... item 28.
Here's a website with bunches of links. Also do we know anything about Kim Roberts' attorney Mark Simeon, other than what was in the Newsweek article.
http://www.e-lacrosse.com/duke2006.html
From what I have read about date-rape drugs, if Crystal was under the influence of such, she would not have been able to remember anything--hence no descriptions of how she was raped (orally, etc.); and also she would have been unable to struggle (as was claimed); nor would she have known how many people raped her.
You are right. The defense will shred this stupidity to bits. It cannot be both ways. She was so tuned in to the "rape" that she knew how long, exactly what was done to her and who did it...right? But she had been slipped a date rape drug? Oh my my my...
good points in posts 27 and 28 on this thread regarding date rape drug
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1620100/posts
Basically, if the victim was drugged, how does one account for her excellent memory of the attackers (100%) and her violent struggles to fight them off.
No, they sit around drinking coffee, hanging out by the fax machine.
Not much ... I read that he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
This article is no longer available:
Durham DA race begins to perk
Veteran defense lawyer Mark Simeon, who is being investigated for
entering Durham District Attorney Jim Hardin's office after
hours, has taken the first step toward running against Hardin in
this year's elections. Simeon filed papers Dec. 27 with the
state Board of Elections to form an exploratory committee to investigate
the feasibility of his candidacy.
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:11Nsto0Wmd4J:lists.nandomedia.com/pipermail/nao-top/2002-January/000267.html+%22mark+simeon%22+durham+-lacrosse+district+attorney&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=7&client=firefox-a
And then there's the strange case of attorney Mark Simeon, who went through an unlocked door into the DAs office after 6 p.m. one night. Simeon says he was looking for a case screening list, and had a 15-minute conversation with an assistant DA while he was there. Hardin decided that was grounds to send the case to the state Attorney General's office for investigation, which referred it to the Greensboro DAs office, which found that no charges should be filed.
Well, whaddya know, Simeon, it turns out, was thinking of running against Hardin for DA. And now he is. But that has put Simeon's shortcomings in the spotlight--and they don't look good for someone who's thinking of running an office that handles more than 60,000 cases a year. He once had 55 unpaid parking tickets. He's behind on repaying his student loans. Then, last month, a judge threatened to hold him in contempt of court for failing to show up on behalf of a client two times in a row. Shortly afterward, Simeon said he was suspending his private law practice to focus on the campaign.
http://www.indyweek.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A18160
I was just getting ready to search for you. Do you have a link for the indictments?
No kidding. They are incredibly incompetent and too stupid to be embarrased. Reporters have CGM's story and they have the players story. Why didn't they ask Kim if the went to the car as Mangum states, or if they went to the bathroom as the players do? Why didn't they ask her at what point they became separated (if they even did) and for how long and what the hell Kim was doing while they were supposedly separated?
Thanks, Maggie. It's obvious Simeon has coached Roberts for her media interviews. Plus that email she sent was not composed by her, IMO. If she's got an attorney, it's logical to assume Crystal Mangumn has one, too. Could they are very much in cahoots with Nifong on the whole deal...
Links (court documents):
http://www.wral.com/news/8764906/detail.html
I thought that one of the symptoms of a date rape drug was that you didn't remember anything... so how does she remember who raped her or even that she was raped at all?
Thank you.
Another week and still no DNA!
I know you have some inside on this..How unusual for there to be no word until May 15th?
May 15, coincidentally is the date for the first court hearing....
I'm getting nothing on that; I was just told it was the standard time, so why would it take longer than it did in the first place?
Assuming there is positive proof of this, the accuser was in a state of intoxication when she arrived. It could have been self-administered, or it could have been given to her at one of her previous engagements (known by police). It could also have been taken during her 27 minute lock-in in the bathroom with Kim, who could have also slipped it to her. There is a long list of potential drug adminstrators.
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