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Date-rape drug allegation in Duke case
Newsday (NY) ^ | April 24, 2006 | BY JENNIFER SMITH

Posted on 04/24/2006 3:51:25 AM PDT by Perdogg

The exotic dancer who accused members of the Duke University lacrosse team of raping her at a party may have been slipped a date-rape drug, according to an interview with the second dancer in the May 1 issue of Newsweek that appeared on stands today.

Newsweek also reported that a defense attorney said some DNA evidence had been found under the accuser's fingernails, but that the first round of DNA testing - which did not incriminate any of the 46 players swabbed - was inconclusive about identity. Results from a second round of tests are expected this week.

The accuser, a 27-year-old black college student and mother, said she was raped and beaten by white students on March 13 after performing for them at a house party. Two lacrosse team members, Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, and Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J., were charged Tuesday. Defense lawyers have maintained their clients' innocence, offering a detailed timeline and time-stamped photos from the party that they say throw the woman's story into doubt.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


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1 posted on 04/24/2006 3:51:28 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Howlin; Peach; OakOak; Locomotive Breath

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2 posted on 04/24/2006 3:52:03 AM PDT by Perdogg (entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem)
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To: Perdogg


Somehow I can't imagine anyone in the sex business taking drinks from those men they perform for. I mean at this point in time with all the information about the date rape drugs. It's got to be standard to bring your own water and keep it with you.


3 posted on 04/24/2006 3:58:32 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Perdogg
Anybody see anything New here?

What do the reporters do these days, hang out and wait for someone to spoon feed them?

4 posted on 04/24/2006 4:00:28 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: Perdogg

The alleged victim's job here is just to come up with the accusations. It's Nancy Grace's job to justify them.


5 posted on 04/24/2006 4:13:27 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Perdogg

This from the second dancer who has already changed her story?

It's possible that she slipped the other dancer a drug in order to roll her for her half of the money.

Let's get back to the DNA. When are the second set of results going to be made public?


6 posted on 04/24/2006 4:20:20 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Perdogg
some DNA evidence had been found under the accuser's fingernails

Given the close contact common in some "exotic dancing" situations, such as lap dancing, this evidence doesn't prove anything.

DNA would have to be found in much more personal places to be evidence of rape.

7 posted on 04/24/2006 4:21:38 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

according to the Durham Herald-Sun, May 15th.


8 posted on 04/24/2006 4:24:07 AM PDT by Perdogg (entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Could be, Crystal did drink Kim's drink ....


According to Roberts, who was interviewed last week by NEWSWEEK, the boys gave each of them mixed drinks. Roberts says she did not drink hers, but the other dancer did, knocking her cup over after finishing half her drink, then imbibing Roberts's.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12442765/site/newsweek/page/3/


9 posted on 04/24/2006 4:26:45 AM PDT by maggief ("Don't abort, adopt. Don't strip, scholarship.")
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To: Perdogg

Thanks.


10 posted on 04/24/2006 4:33:55 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Perdogg

"Changed her mind"


IMO, she's looking to cash in ... and so is her attorney.


Court records obtained by AP and by NEWSWEEK show that Kim Roberts was on probation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company where she worked, helping to keep payroll records. On March 22, eight days after the alleged rape, Kim spent two hours in jail for breaking the terms of her probation (she had left the state, her attorney says, to visit her sick father). She posted $25,000 bond and on March 30 found a lawyer, Mark Simeon.

Simeon is not a big-time lawyer. He handles mostly traffic violations and routine criminal matters in the Durham courts. But he is politically active—in 2002 he ran for district attorney and lost. He sees Roberts's case as an opportunity for him, too. "I will be there for her if and when she decides to pursue legal remedies on her own behalf," he says. And he wants to put together a team to represent the alleged rape victim in another civil suit, in order to, he says, "help make her whole." He has asked an associate to contact Willie E. Gary, a well-known Florida lawyer. Simeon told NEWSWEEK, "[My mother's] proud of seeing me on TV but she'd like to see that translated into something tangible. It's not so I can dress like a powerful lawyer. I've struggled since that last election."

Simeon has a relationship with prosecutor Nifong that may shed light on the D.A.'s handling of the case. Nifong was the protégé of Simeon's rival in the 2002 race for D.A. Simeon and Nifong did not get along, according to Simeon. But last year, Nifong's boss, Jim Hardin, was appointed to a judgeship, and Nifong was appointed to fill his place. Nifong's term is almost up, and in Durham, district attorney is an elected post. The voters go to the polls in one week, on May 2. One of Nifong's opponents is a lawyer named Freda Black, who was passed over for the D.A. job. Black is—or was, until the Duke case—better known around town than Nifong, largely because she won a conviction in a celebrated murder case. Nifong's other opponent is a lawyer with no prosecutorial experience named Keith Bishop. Nifong and Black are white; Bishop is African-American. Durham voters are about 40 percent black, so Nifong almost surely needs to win black votes to keep his job.

Shortly after Nifong decided to run, he began reaching out to Simeon. He went to an NAACP banquet and crossed the room to extend his hand in peace to Simeon. On March 28—the day after Nifong first spoke out in the Duke case, publicly chastising the players for not coming forward to volunteer information about the alleged rape—Simeon told Nifong he would support him. He invited Nifong to speak at his church, Ebenezer Missionary Baptist, and introduced him to the African-American congregation as a man who had always been a "good prosecutor," but who, Simeon said he had recently learned, was also a "good man."

That was on April 9. A week later Simeon asked Nifong to go to court to relieve Kim of the obligation of paying the bail-bond fees, arguing that she was no longer a "flight risk." Nifong agreed, as did the judge. Simeon told NEWSWEEK he went before the Durham Committee on the Affairs of Black People, a very influential group, and urged them to vote for Nifong. Simeon says he has also been giving Nifong fashion advice, telling him to lose the plaid shirts and to start wearing black suits, light shirts and power ties. Women like power, Simeon says he told Nifong.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12442765/site/newsweek/page/6/


11 posted on 04/24/2006 4:34:15 AM PDT by maggief ("Don't abort, adopt. Don't strip, scholarship.")
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To: maggief

Talk about your tangled web.


12 posted on 04/24/2006 5:08:51 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Perdogg
Most of this stuff is fairly hypnotic. Presumably you could convince someone under the influence of just about anything.

I suppose some people think it's quite entertaining to drug others.

13 posted on 04/24/2006 5:15:19 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

From what I have read about date-rape drugs, if Crystal was under the influence of such, she would not have been able to remember anything--hence no descriptions of how she was raped (orally, etc.); and also she would have been unable to struggle (as was claimed); nor would she have known how many people raped her.


14 posted on 04/24/2006 5:32:07 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: maggief
If Crystal spilled her drink, wouldn't it be easy enough for Kim to remember where and authorities to test the carpet where it spilled?

If the toxicology report came back with evidence of a date rape drug wouldn't this have been added to the charges? Or, wouldn't Kim remember the individual who served them the drinks?

I'm getting nuts with these two...If Kim was sober, she should remember minute by minute of what happened and her story's been changed so many times how can anyone believe her?

15 posted on 04/24/2006 6:04:27 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: maggief
"Roberts did say that, within several days of the incident, she went to James D. (Butch) Williams, a prominent local attorney, to ask his advice. She says that from the outset Williams told her that he already represented one of the Duke players. Williams asked if she believed there had been a rape, and Roberts answered no. But when Williams tried to get her to sign an affidavit, she balked. She said she later became livid when she heard that Williams had shared her story with other attorneys. Seeing Williams's face appear on a TV during her interview with NEWSWEEK, she stood up and began punching the air in anger at him. "I feel like he preyed on my naiveté," she told NEWSWEEK. "I don't want someone to play me like I'm stupid."

More from the Newsweek article on Ms. Kim:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12442765/site/newsweek/page/4/

16 posted on 04/24/2006 6:15:29 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: Neverforget01; maggief

Don't forget. roofies stay in your system for up to 72 hours.


17 posted on 04/24/2006 6:41:06 AM PDT by Perdogg (entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem)
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To: Neverforget01

Recap:

Kim mad at other stripper ... didn't receive all her money and wonders if she'd been hustled by Crystal.

Kim lies on 911 call.

Kim doubts rape story.

Kim shops for lawyer, Williams.

Williams already represented a Duke LAX player.

Williams asked if she believed there had been a rape, and Kim answered no.

Kim declined to sign affidavit.

Kim breaks terms of probation (embezzlement charge) and obtains lawyer, Simeon.

Simeon needing career boost.

Simeon supports Nifong in upcoming election, meeting with influential black groups.

Nifong agrees to relieve Kim of bail-bond fees.

Kim changes story or no rape to possible.

Kim emails pr firm on "how to spin this to my advantage."

Kim says Crystal may have been slipped date rape drug.


18 posted on 04/24/2006 6:43:46 AM PDT by maggief ("Don't abort, adopt. Don't strip, scholarship.")
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To: maggief

Kim changes story or no rape to possible.

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19 posted on 04/24/2006 6:45:36 AM PDT by maggief ("Don't abort, adopt. Don't strip, scholarship.")
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To: maggief; Perdogg

I think I'm going to star "punching the air" in frustration. Kim is ticked off (I'm not sure she didn't rob Crystal of her take for the night)so she's ready to set up innocent kids. There has been no evidence of any suspicion of date rape drugs...not in search warrants, probable cause statements, or in charges against the accused!


20 posted on 04/24/2006 6:49:57 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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