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Testing Darwin's Teachers
Loa Angeles Times ^ | March 31, 2006 | Stephanie Simon

Posted on 03/31/2006 7:18:12 PM PST by Virginia-American

LIBERTY, Mo. — Monday morning, Room 207: First day of a unit on the origins of life. Veteran biology teacher Al Frisby switches on the overhead projector and braces himself.

As his students rummage for their notebooks, Frisby introduces his central theme: Every creature on Earth has been shaped by random mutation and natural selection — in a word, by evolution.

The challenges begin at once.

"Isn't it true that mutations only make an animal weaker?" sophomore Chris Willett

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Frisby tries to explain that evolution takes millions of years, but Willett isn't listening. "I feel a tail growing!" he calls to his friends, drawing laughter.

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He's about to start on the fossil evidence when sophomore Jeff Paul interrupts: "How are you 100% sure that those bones belong to those animals? It could just be some deformed raccoon."

From the back of the room, sophomore Melissa Brooks chimes in: "Those are real bones that someone actually found? You're not just making this up?"

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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per FR rules, only an excerpt of an LA Times article.

These kids need to be taught to respect their teachers! It's one thing to disagree, quite another to be rude and interrupt and prevent others from learning in class.

1 posted on 03/31/2006 7:18:12 PM PST by Virginia-American
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To: PatrickHenry; Junior

(( ping ))


2 posted on 03/31/2006 7:19:07 PM PST by Virginia-American
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
Evolution Ping

The List-O-Links
A conservative, pro-evolution science list, now with over 360 names.
See the list's explanation, then FReepmail to be added or dropped.
To assist beginners: But it's "just a theory", Evo-Troll's Toolkit,
and How to argue against a scientific theory.

3 posted on 03/31/2006 7:20:33 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: Virginia-American

Textbook example of a post trolling for heated responses.

We shall see who takes the bait.


4 posted on 03/31/2006 7:22:04 PM PST by Dog Gone
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Gentle reminder: Now hear this: No personal attacks (title of thread posted 15 March 2006 by Jim Robinson).
5 posted on 03/31/2006 7:23:55 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Now hear this: No personal attacks

Byte me, you deviated prevert!

;-)

6 posted on 03/31/2006 7:26:28 PM PST by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: PatrickHenry

Yeah well...you ugly and yo' momma dresses you funny.


7 posted on 03/31/2006 7:26:37 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I completely concur with that, but I'm not sure bait should be spread.

Then again, it's the weekend, and Friday nights are all right for fightin'...

8 posted on 03/31/2006 7:26:58 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Virginia-American

I got kicked out of a history class in high school for asking snotty questions. On one hand the teacher was insufferable and deserved it. On the other hand I didn't do that again.

I think students who are opposed to science should be offered the option of taking basket weaving or knitting or something.


9 posted on 03/31/2006 7:27:01 PM PST by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: All
Help for new visitors to the evolution debate
Another service of Darwin Central, the conspiracy that cares.

If you're interested in learning about evolution, visit The List-O-Links.
If you'd like to understand the concept of speciation, visit Micro-evolution, Macro-evolution, and Speciation.
If you're serious about debating this issue, see How to argue against a scientific theory.

10 posted on 03/31/2006 7:27:12 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: Virginia-American

IB4TZ? My first time, I think.


11 posted on 03/31/2006 7:27:26 PM PST by chesley (Liberals...what's not to loathe?)
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I got kicked out of a history class in high school for asking snotty questions...

in *history* class? What kind of stuff were you asking about?

12 posted on 03/31/2006 7:30:23 PM PST by Virginia-American
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To: chesley

Try again, newbie.


13 posted on 03/31/2006 7:30:55 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: chesley

Why should anyone be zotted over this? It's an interesting article on a topic widely discussed here.

I find it sad that so many young kids are being corrupted by the lies of those with a political agenda to advance their religious beliefs. Some of the kids in this article will never understand biology or other sciences properly because of Answers in Genesis propaganda.


14 posted on 03/31/2006 7:32:22 PM PST by Bubbatuck
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"IB4TZ? My first time, I think."

You're going to be zotted? Why?
15 posted on 03/31/2006 7:32:36 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Virginia-American
These kids need to be taught to respect their teachers! It's one thing to disagree, quite another to be rude and interrupt and prevent others from learning in class.

From reading the article it sounds like the parents are putting them up to this, which is totally inappropriate in my opinion. Parents should not use their kids like that, especially if they are encouraging them to be disruptive.
16 posted on 03/31/2006 7:32:57 PM PST by microgood
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To: longshadow
The imminent arrival of April Fool's Day has obviously derailed the remnants of your sanity.
17 posted on 03/31/2006 7:33:43 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: Virginia-American
Damn, we should have organized something in highschool chemistry. "Are you making up this bs about 'atoms'? And what are these 'electrons', and why haven't I seen any? I ain't made of no electrons and atoms!"

And in physics, "Forces? All of this gravity stuff is bogus - it is obvious that heavier things fall faster! You should teach the controversy. Where are there still things 'up'?" We could have skipped the second law of thermodynamics for sure - it contradicts the ignorant version being pettled.

But this is only a problem because of public schooling. If the ignorati could go and "learn" not-science, while the rest learn science - and employers were free to choose between the groups - this problem would mostly correct itself swiftly. There will just be another group of neo-amish, no skin off my nose.

18 posted on 03/31/2006 7:34:12 PM PST by M203M4
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To: Virginia-American

My American history teacher was a protype of General Jack D. Ripper. He talked endlessly about the need for a first strike against the Soviet Union. He was not kidding, as I found out.


19 posted on 03/31/2006 7:35:35 PM PST by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: chesley

Are you smoking?


20 posted on 03/31/2006 7:42:20 PM PST by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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