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Do you want to be right, or do you want to win?

It is that simple.

1 posted on 03/27/2006 9:53:43 AM PST by Pukin Dog
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[ Do you want to be right, or do you want to win? It is that simple. ]

Exactly.. hold it; while I rearrange my definition of winning.. THERE... I agree.. Winning these days also takes a new look at loosing.. Must reconfigure that one too.. DONE..

NOW I'm ready for political WAR, or whatever its called now..

33 posted on 03/27/2006 10:05:01 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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You are right. We have lost. Over the last 20 or so years the problem has spiraled out of control. It (illegal immigration) is far beyond anything the government can or will handle no matter who is in power.


35 posted on 03/27/2006 10:05:09 AM PST by Roccus
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If there are bigger issues, which I doubt, this issue is part of those bigger issues.


36 posted on 03/27/2006 10:05:19 AM PST by Digger
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Get over it. There are bigger battles ahead.

Really? Like what? The problem with Republicans is we are always moving our line in the sand backwards as there are always "bigger battles ahead".

California may be lost, but I refuse to concede the rest of the US.

38 posted on 03/27/2006 10:05:33 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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Go puke your pablum on the other side of the border.


40 posted on 03/27/2006 10:05:42 AM PST by Mini-14
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Ah...another vanity from Pukin Dog that has wormed its way into "News/Activism." Seriously, PD, you have proved to wrong twice - on both the Harriet Miers and the DPW issues. Why don't you realize that your crystal ball is broken and save us your bizarre forecasts?


41 posted on 03/27/2006 10:07:04 AM PST by indcons (The MSM - Mainstream Slime Merchants)
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I want to be right. If an amnesty goes through I will never again give a dime to a GOP candidate.


46 posted on 03/27/2006 10:08:17 AM PST by thoughtomator (Pacifism is objectively pro-terrorist)
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Do you want to be right, or do you want to win? It is that simple.

I want both, and it not as simple as you state. Better read this before you go off on another RANT - - We Don't Need 'Guest Workers'

47 posted on 03/27/2006 10:08:17 AM PST by p23185
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You are a fool if you think that amnesty will win anything for the GOP. I will not vote for any party that does not stand for law and order and kick out these invaders from Mexico that are criminals by any law we have on the books.

If I do not vote for the GOP, and my neighbor doesn't as well, look to Pelosi to be the next Speaker of the House. And her first order of business? Bring GWB up on charges.

What a wonderful outcome heel dragging on the immigration issue by GWB has caused. There is no good outcome for the GOP. It is time to face facts.
48 posted on 03/27/2006 10:09:19 AM PST by Final Authority
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Whether you like it or not, much of the commerce of this country does depend on these folks to do jobs that Americans won’t do for the prevailing wage.

It's a market wage, and saying Americans won't do work for a market wage is insulting to illegals and Americans. Our modern, technological economy depends primarily on innovation, investment, and knowledge, not low skilled, uneducated invaders from the South.

52 posted on 03/27/2006 10:11:28 AM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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jobs that Americans won’t do for the prevailing wage.



So we should bring back slavery. After all, zero is a wage Americans won't work for.

Raise the stinking wages and deport the illegals.

The Republicans will win when they do the RIGHT thing. President Bush did right with the Harriet turnaround and pulling back from his veto threat on Dubai was another good Harriet move. Now he needs to Harriet that amnesty program of his and just start deporting these illegals NOW.

Do the RIGHT thing and Win


53 posted on 03/27/2006 10:11:30 AM PST by TomasUSMC ((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
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Thanks, Pukin Dog. You are, of course, 100% right on this. There is no will out there among the American public to round up illegal Mexican immigrants. It seems to me that President Bush has again charted the best course on this policy.

And I'll say something else. It's one thing to be critical of the President's views. It's entirely another to engage in the kinds of brutal attacks on him that I've seen on FR today. It's as if these people imagine that Hillary Clinton will have a stonger anti-illegal policy than President Bush.

And one more thing. I think some people here just don't like Mexicans.


55 posted on 03/27/2006 10:12:13 AM PST by zook
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When you do the victory circle... I'll be the guy pissing in the stands.


56 posted on 03/27/2006 10:12:15 AM PST by johnny7 (“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
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" Only after a migrant worker program passes, making most of these illegal aliens legal, is there any chance at all to have meaningful border enforcement."


Reagan already tried that, and guess what we have a bigger problem. I guess Mexico will be part of the USA since both parties are too weak to stop this invasion. I have no problem with "LEGAL" immigration. Its the "ILLEAGALS" I have issues with. They believe the law does not apply to them.

Well are we a Nation of laws, or do we let Mobs rule the day?


57 posted on 03/27/2006 10:12:35 AM PST by Sprite518
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Thank you for posting this. I have been very depressed the last few days thinking about the national Republican Party driving right off the same cliff Pete Wilson did, and rendering us as much a national minority as we are in Kalifornia.

Maybe there is some hope sanity will prevail.

58 posted on 03/27/2006 10:12:40 AM PST by colorado tanker (We need more "chicken-bleep Democrats" in the Senate!)
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If you do not live on the border.....or in a border state, your perspective may be skewed.

The drug violence has spilled over the border, the illegals are flowing in like a tsunami. Time for the wall, force, and backup....NOW!

59 posted on 03/27/2006 10:12:43 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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I want to be right. There is no point to winning if it's done for loss of principles.


61 posted on 03/27/2006 10:12:55 AM PST by rattrap
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Hi PD, you raise some good points, but I'm not ready to lay down before the La Raza bulldozer quite yet. Given the size and nature of the protests this last week, I think pushing the House Bill aggressively will only inspire these folks to more vocal and outrageous protests. Let's push them, and see if we can provoke a backlash against their outrageousness among a majority of the electorate.


67 posted on 03/27/2006 10:13:46 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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This happens a lot, and a lot of the time, the people who want to win win, and the people who are right lose.

Best example I can think of is the most recent Senate election in Colorado. The Republicans had Bob Schaffer, a true conservative, and their best candidate. The Democrats had Mike Miles, a former Army Ranger Captain, and their best candidate.

But all of a sudden, the Republicans said, 'Hey - Let's run Pete Coors instead! He has the best chance to win!'; And the Democrats said, 'Hey - Let's run Ken Salazar instead! He has the best chance to win!'

Both were poor candidates, and the people who wanted to win won, and the people who are right lost.

72 posted on 03/27/2006 10:14:31 AM PST by real saxophonist (I survived Parris Island AND Hurricane Hugo! At the same time! Semper Fi)
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73 posted on 03/27/2006 10:14:57 AM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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