Posted on 03/27/2006 9:53:41 AM PST by Pukin Dog
Just a little dose of reality for some of you going nuts over the Immigration issue, because there is NO chance that you will win on the border enforcement issue. No chance whatsoever. Only after a migrant worker program passes, making most of these illegal aliens legal, is there any chance at all to have meaningful border enforcement.
Bush is not running for office anymore, but the Republican Congress is in need of a big victory in November. This issue will kill our chances to maintain the majority, and knowing that, Bush will likely veto any bill making illegal immigration a felony, if that bill does not include the migrant worker program (call it amnesty if you want) needed to hold onto Business and Hispanic support for the Republican Party.
The Illegal Immigration Genie is out of the bottle, folks. You can’t stuff her back in without losing the House and/or Senate in November. Pragmatic minds will rule in the end, and that is a bitter pill you best swallow now.
FReepers can’t will elections for the Republican Party, but we sure can go a long way towards losing them, if we can’t put our common sense ahead of our passions on this issue. I live in San Diego County, and I see the problems with illegal immigration on a daily basis.
Whether you like it or not, much of the commerce of this country does depend on these folks to do jobs that Americans won’t do for the prevailing wage.
So, you have a choice, you can demand the border enforcement bills on their own, or you can swallow hard and consider everything you will lose if we turn off 10-15% of the electorate, in addition to the business community that depends on these workers. Yeah, they broke the law, and so do the people who hire them.
So what?
Yeah, I said it, SO WHAT? The time to be worried about that was when there were REAL Republican majorities in the Border States. It is too late now. This is a problem that cannot be solved, but only managed.
It is possible to be right and stupid at the same time. Pete Wilson tried this a few years ago, got all kinds of support for it. It passed, and Pete Wilson is gone. Then a judge overturned it anyway. That is exactly what you can expect to happen with these current bills as well. Some judge will put an injunction on enforcement, but by the time that happens, we will be knee-deep into impeachment proceeding under a Democrat Congress.
Bush won’t let that happen, neither will smarter members of the Senate and House. You won’t win, you can’t win, but you can shoot yourself and the Republican party in the head (even if you are not a member) by pursuing a program that does not include amnesty or whatever you want to call it.
We lost this one.
Get over it. There are bigger battles ahead.
For what does it profit a political party to win the majority but lose its soul?
The next major party on American soil might just be the PRI the direction we're headed.
Apparently some believe that the Whigs will reign forever.
Right! So let's beat the Dems to the punch and promise them all sorts of social goodies! Great idea!
Is this making sense to you? That so many blacks have come out against Democrats, the way they keep blacks undereducated and on welfare? They've treated black people as stupid for way too long, and they're on to it. Read some Thomas Sowell, for cryin' out loud. Get up to speed.
High scool mentality of: Nothing else matters as long as I am in the 'in' crowd.
OK. I tried to have a reasonable discussion about this issue. You obviously want to hurl insults. Enjoy yourself, but find another target. I'm done.
Oh I agree that this will get much worse before it gets better
The Bob Michel days... golfing with Tip O'Neill and bendover-bipartisanship!
Soon after he started posting on FR, I sort of figured out what his agenda was all about. I usually steer clear of him and rarely read his posts. Just another pragmatic centrist and status quo troublemaker. Since he is an admited law breaker, I am as surprised as you are that our fearless leader allows him to continue posting on FR.
No I don't, but they will flock AWAY from the GOP if we are stupid. As for Democrat promises, they are meaningless while they remain in the minority.
You see, I don't join the crowd that suggests that Latinos are just hear to take advantage of U.S. taxpayers. I believe that just like people from EVERY OTHER NATION WHO CAME HERE, that a larger majority of them want a chance to raise their families in a safe, healthy environment, fueled by a vibrant economy. I don't think they have a higher percentage of slackers than any other race. In fact, from what I see, these people simply work their asses off, and do little complaining as they go about their business.
The fact remains that anyone who thinks the United States of America is going to round up and deport 12 Million illegals, needs to have their head examined. They are hear, and they are not going anywhere, whether we like it or not. There is no enforcement policy that will work UNLESS there is a migrant worker program in place FIRST, to provide an alternative for those who want to come here legally.
The same reason the others are ignored.
BTW, you idea of shooting people ain't gonna happen, so you will have to get your next wet dream somewhere else.
If you pass a shamnesty before securing the borders, you're going to have another 10-30 million illegal invaders to deal with.
Which would be good for you, since you can then drive down the wages that you pay your slave labor.
LOL Worth repeating.
Yeah, selective lawlessness. If it's not to [my] benefit, I'll just simply misinterpret and misapply.
Its been a riot folks, but I'm going fishing for a few hours before the promised rain begins.
Have a good one......
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