To: Elsie; From many - one.
[Sorry, no, that doesn't help answer the question, unless you can figure out how to manage to produce the wide diversity of dog breeds from an original breeding population as small as five dogs, with the attendant lack of genetic diversity.] Ok, I probably could answer your question, if you can tell me just how many WOLVES did they start with?
A hell of a lot more than "five". Every single DNA study of dogs indicates an amount and kind of genetic diversity that, barring vast unlikely bizarre scenarios (like ridiculously coincidental mutations which just "happen" to mimic diversity of ancestry), which could only have come from not only a decent sized ancestral population of wolves, but also multiple *different* introductions of wolf genes into the dog lineage. For example:
Multiple and Ancient Origins of the Domestic Dog Genetic Evidence for an East Asian Origin of Domestic Dogs
Thus my point -- it's ridiculous of you to use dogs as an example of the kind of genetic diversity that "could" arise from an original population of only five ancestors, because the specific genetic diversity found in dogs has been determined, multiple times by independent methods, to be *far* beyond what could have resulted from such a small starting population.
To: Ichneumon
Thus my point -- it's ridiculous of you to use dogs as an example of the kind of genetic diversity that "could" arise from an original population of only five ancestors, because the specific genetic diversity found in dogs has been determined, multiple times by independent methods, to be *far* beyond what could have resulted from such a small starting population. I'm sorry this is so hard to sink in, but SOMEWHERE, back in time, there HAS to be a "Small Starting Population" of SOMETHING, if the ToE is to be believed.
683 posted on
03/13/2006 4:08:12 AM PST by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Ichneumon
Thus my point -- it's ridiculous of you to use dogs as an example of the kind of genetic diversity that "could" arise from an original population of only five ancestors, because the specific genetic diversity found in dogs has been determined, multiple times by independent methods, to be *far* beyond what could have resulted from such a small starting population. I'm sorry this is so hard to sink in, but SOMEWHERE, back in time, there HAS to be a "Small Starting Population" of SOMETHING, if the ToE is to be believed.
684 posted on
03/13/2006 4:08:45 AM PST by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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