[Coyoteman]

I have never seen an evolutionist on this forum take what evidence has been presented by us and deal directly with our assertions. As I said above, you simply dismiss it out of hand. That amounts to neither good debate, nor scientific inquiry.

Actually several posters address creationist claims in detail on occasion. Ichneuman comes to mind (so ping to him).

The problem is, your evidence goes back to the bible and to your belief in it and in its accuracy.

"Evolutionists" generally rely on materialistic data and interpretations (just the sort of thing the Discovery Institute rails about in their Wedge Document).

So in many of these threads when "evolutionists" challenge the scientific claims of creationists we see one of two results:

• First, the evolutionists are accused of being anti-god, anti-religion, atheists, nazis, or worse.

• Second, when backed into a corner with scientific data and theory, creationists often resort to 1) permutations of science that would fail in the fourth grade, 2) quoting the bible (Elsie comes to mind, so I am pinging him), 3) stubborn disbelief, or 4) artful dodging.

An alternate approach would be to say that your evidence is junk science at best, but most evolutionists are more polite than that. I have seen hundreds of threads where folks have posted a great deal of science, both text and links, only to have it ridiculed as spam, too long to read, nothing but links, nothing but text, not applicable, wrong, or some such. It is very common to have responses that are merely curt dismissals of well-reasoned and widely-accepted data and theory.

Hope this discussion helps.

[LiteKeeper]

The problem is, your evidence goes back to the bible and to your belief in it and in its accuracy.

Wrong!

[Elsie]

2) quoting the bible (Elsie comes to mind, so I am pinging him)

Yeah.... who else (eee)? ;^)

[Elsie]

I guess the main biblical complaint is that it doesn't 'address' science, as such.

True, there isn't much detail, but overviews of grand concepts.

Unlike fractals, where zooming in shows basically the same stuff, the Bible COULD do that, I suppose, if increasing detail would actually cause more folks to turn to God, but it appears that was neither the writers nor the compilers intent.

What's baffling on the other side, the more 'detail' they know, the less inclined they are to give God credit for it.

Go figger.