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Bush: Outsourcing painful, but remedy is worse
CNN.com ^ | Friday, March 3, 2006 Posted: 1640 GMT (0040 HKT)

Posted on 03/04/2006 2:25:11 PM PST by Gengis Khan

NEW DELHI, India (CNN) -- Praising India's expanding economy, President Bush warned Friday that fears about job outsourcing to other nations should not prompt the United States to limit global trade. "It's ... important to remember that when someone loses a job it's an incredibly difficult period for the worker and their families," Bush said in a speech in New Delhi. "It's true that some Americans have lost jobs when their companies move their operations overseas," he said. "Some people believe the answer to this problem is to wall off our economy from the world through protectionist policies. I strongly disagree."

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To: oceanview
its going to become a niche profession . . . the top schools like MIT producing cutting edge graduates, and others in the field had best include an MBA as part of their science degrees. . .

And most of them will be foreign students.

261 posted on 03/04/2006 11:24:50 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Revel
Globalism is as it implies- The end of America. Now we can actually see the writting on the wall. That is for those who are willing to see.

I am not sure what you mean by globalism but as far as economics is concerned global trade is the natural result of improvments in transportation and communication, rather than some international plot

The international plot can be seen in what the liberal Democrats have been doing for the last 70 years to handicap and then destroy the most productive economic engine the world has ever seen, free enterprise as practiced by the USA. The plot is at home, not over there somewhere.

262 posted on 03/04/2006 11:27:22 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: dfwgator

exactly.


263 posted on 03/04/2006 11:29:50 PM PST by mojojockey
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To: BW2221
"A couple of days ago on his radio program, Michael Savage made reference to a report (I haven't seen it posted, nor found any other links) that GW said we will need 60 million 'immigrants' to support the Social Security program in a few years.

If that is GW's new, revised solution to Social Security, this nation is in big trouble."

If W said that he was talking about how SS is now, not how he wants it to be. His new, revised solution is privitization to replace the ponzi cheme that requires more and more new players like the immigrants.

264 posted on 03/04/2006 11:32:18 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
The next time the Isolationist crowd chimes in, remind them of how well Isolationism worked for the Soviet Union.

People waited for days in lines backed up for miles, just to get their daily rations of food and commodities. Supermarkets didn't have enough products to stock the shelves with. They were usually empty.

265 posted on 03/04/2006 11:32:48 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Pat Buchanan............A principled pessimist with a pessimistic principal)
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To: mojojockey

Given two choices:

A: You personally are worse off, but your neighbor is much worse off.

and

B: You are only slightly better off, but your neighbor is much better off.

It's shocking how many would actually choose option A. That's Communism in a nutshell. Shared misery.


266 posted on 03/04/2006 11:34:48 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: nopardons; ScreamingFist

"I'm off, big thunderstorms. We'll argue later. Regards."


That ONE post is very telling.
All SF wants to do is argue.

Why don't you put "it" on your ignore list.
That would save a lot of time and energy.


267 posted on 03/04/2006 11:39:12 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Owen
There is a handful of very recent active posters trying to turn FR into a liberal supporting website. In general just ignore these folks who advocate policies and processes that will result in Democrats coming to power to dictate the lives of your family and neighbors.

The only way to stop this is to send money to GOP candidates in vulnerable districts. You can rest assured that they will be the rightward most leaning candidates in those races who are viable.

Deserves a repeat.

268 posted on 03/04/2006 11:40:26 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot; MNJohnnie; ctdonath2

I joined the thread late, too.
And, I'm going to have to leave it soon.

I must say that I totally agree with you.

I've always respected your well thought out posts.
After reading the posts of the others, I respect them, too.

In fact, ctdonath2 and I have very close signup dates.
I'm sorry I haven't seen you before.
It's nice to meet you. ;o)
Your post was very good.


269 posted on 03/04/2006 11:46:22 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: willstayfree
What you see are companies hiring new engineers right out of school because although, they will initially be an apprentice, their salaries are much lower than the senior engineers who have 10 years of experience or more. Take a look at how many engineers there are over fifty. Their numbers are low because their salaries are high and companies look for younger engineers, outsourced engineers or insourced engineers to replace them to save money.

Right. Programming is programming no matter who it is done by. Now that some structure (Structured analysis, object oriented design, new languages, etc.) has finally been adopted by the software and IT profession there is no need to pay twice as much for the same thing. Unless a programmer has upgraded himself to a system analyst, designer or systems engineer his usefulness has been surpassed.

Another factor that works against the older worker is the escalating cost of healthcare and retirements benefits. The older workers cost more than younger workers in these programs for obvious reasons. CFO's and other bottomline managers cut the financial fat.

270 posted on 03/04/2006 11:48:18 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: dixiechick2000

Thanks and bye. See you again soon we hope.


271 posted on 03/04/2006 11:52:20 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Dallas59

I am with the two way street camp. I think President Bush is paving the way for such a street. Don't you agree?


272 posted on 03/04/2006 11:54:24 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: dfwgator

misery loves company.


273 posted on 03/04/2006 11:54:53 PM PST by mojojockey
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Thank you! ;o)

I'm around, although infrequently.
And, I really do appreciate your posts.
They are very reasoned, and thoughtful.

It was very good to see you. ;o)


274 posted on 03/04/2006 11:58:21 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: dixiechick2000
Isn't it just?

And the fact that he's following around the threads, staring fights, out of thin air, proves exactly what he's interested in. Helpful hint...he said it himself; a FIGHT.

275 posted on 03/04/2006 11:59:55 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons; ScreamingFist

Yes, ma'am.
Your "helpful hint" is exactly what is going on.

Some folks would argue with a toaster. ;o)


276 posted on 03/05/2006 12:03:30 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: dixiechick2000; ScreamingFist
Well, arguing with a toaster, is the ONLY way he's going to "win" any argument. LOL
277 posted on 03/05/2006 12:05:48 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons; ScreamingFist

ROTFLOL!


That is obvious. ;o)


278 posted on 03/05/2006 12:08:39 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: MNJohnnie
Good words. After reading several of the posts, I am noticing a definite isolationist trend. I am for a two way street. I have few details telling what issues President Bush discussed in India. I remember his words in the State of the Union speech: "We will choose to build our prosperity by leading the world economy -- or shut ourselves off from trade and opportunity. In a complex and challenging time, the road of isolationism and protectionism may seem broad and inviting -- yet it ends in danger and decline. The only way to protect our people, the only way to secure the peace, the only way to control our destiny is by our leadership -- so the United States of America will continue to lead."

A leader like President Bush will not let small problems like outsourcing cause the United States to give up its leadership role in the world. And, there is no way that outsourcing will cause the United States to give up its friendship with a strong friend and ally as democratic India.
279 posted on 03/05/2006 12:11:30 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: ctdonath2

BINGO!!
You can't whine about "Out-Sourcing" until you understand OUT-FORCING! 3+ Decades of socialism has OUT-FORCED And made uncompetitive MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of US Jobs! How many of you folks think the term "RUST BELT" is something that came along since Bush was in office??

It's not WALMART chasing our jobs overseas, it's Over-Regulation, Over-Unionization, Over-taxation, stifling environmental rules, and my personal favorite, UNLIMITED CIVIL LIABILTY!!

Until we get a handle on ALL of these (and we aren't even trying) that giant sucking sound is your JOB, leaving America......
(Proper credit for that last quote to the Big ear'd guy it's due...)


280 posted on 03/05/2006 12:12:54 AM PST by tcrlaf
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