Churches urged to back evolution

British Broadcasting Corporation ^ | 20 February 2006 | Paul Rincon

[PresbyRev]

The character of Jesus presented in the NT is a re-presentation of the dying & rising god-man of the near eastern mystery cults presented in a mixture of Jewish and Roman symbols, stories, metaphors, analogies, etc.

Hope that helps answer your question.

[Thatcherite]

You err. Sometimes I'm deeply wounded and slink off to lick 'em.

Possibly so. But you don't allow information or evidence to taint your worldview, if that information or evidence conflicts with your Biblical understanding.

[BMCDA]

Poor uzzah indeed. There's just SOMETHING about OBEDIENCE that galls folks; ain't there!

OK... and your point is??

[Elsie]

..clearly attention seeking IMO.

And gettin' it; thank you very much!!

[Elsie]

But you don't allow information or evidence to taint your worldview, if that information or evidence conflicts with your Biblical understanding.

Everyone gets a choice: Either understand the Bible from the world's view; or understand the World from the Bible's view.

[Dimensio]

Ok then, from which part of the post did you logically infer that the poster was an arrogant, delusional liar?

This statement:

"Every time you call me a liar, you are calling God a liar"

There are no qualifiers here. Attempting to identify any deliberate falsehood uttered by pnsn is deemed a personal attack on God Himself. I can see only two possible implications from this statement: either pnsn is claiming to be God Himself, or that absolutely everything that pnsn states -- with no exceptions -- comes, unerringly, from God's mouth and that I am supposed to realise this already (otherwise I could not possibly knowingly be calling God a liar).

This has nothing to do with pnsn's belief in literal Biblical creationism. This is about a claim that any attempt at exposing a falsehood on pnsn's part, no matter what the subject or context, is tantamount to calling God a liar.

[stands2reason]

Science cannot be theistic. Science is limited. Otherwise, I don't know what you're talking about that we both "knew".

The poster was leaving out Buddhism as a religion in her definition. I corrected her, so what's your problem?

[hail to the chief]

Hmm?

[Thatcherite]

Everyone gets a choice: Either understand the Bible from the world's view; or understand the World from the Bible's view.

False dichotomy. There are many other options. For example one might not have heard of the Bible at all. What conclusions would such an individual come to about matters such as evolution and the age of the earth, do you think? Would God refuse salvation to an individual who failed to draw conclusions that matched those in the Bible?

[Thatcherite]

catagory 0 --

I'll award Elsie a modified category zero, for occasionally making me laugh, a lot, intentionally. (unlike the endless examples of unintentional creationist comedy). Fun is what we are partly here for, after all.

[Thatcherite]

see 1184 and 1189- then water your plants, walk the dog, or do something useful with your one and only life !

:)) I've had a lot of fun needling the ineducable in my FR persona. And sometimes the points can illuminate things for the lurkers.

[Ken H]

Me: Are Jews who died without accepting Christ doomed to Hell?

Elsie: Yes

I guess those Jews got a nasty surprise after they perished in the Holocaust.

[Elsie]

OK... and your point is??

 

"It is written..."

 

NIV Exodus 25:8-40
 8.  "Then have them make a sanctuary for me, and I will dwell among them.
 9.  Make this tabernacle and all its furnishings exactly like the pattern I will show you.
 10.  "Have them make a chest of acacia wood--two and a half cubits long, a cubit and a half wide, and a cubit and a half high.
 11.  Overlay it with pure gold, both inside and out, and make a gold molding around it.
 12.  Cast four gold rings for it and fasten them to its four feet, with two rings on one side and two rings on the other. 
 13.  Then make poles of acacia wood and overlay them with gold.
 14.  Insert the poles into the rings on the sides of the chest to carry it.
 15.  The poles are to remain in the rings of this ark; they are not to be removed.
 16.  Then put in the ark the Testimony, which I will give you.
 17.  "Make an atonement cover  of pure gold--two and a half cubits long and a cubit and a half wide.
 18.  And make two cherubim out of hammered gold at the ends of the cover.
 19.  Make one cherub on one end and the second cherub on the other; make the cherubim of one piece with the cover, at the two ends.
 20.  The cherubim are to have their wings spread upward, overshadowing the cover with them. The cherubim are to face each other, looking toward the cover.
 21.  Place the cover on top of the ark and put in the ark the Testimony, which I will give you. 
 

 

NIV Numbers 4:15
   "After Aaron and his sons have finished covering the holy furnishings and all the holy articles, and when the camp is ready to move, the Kohathites are to come to do the carrying. But they must not touch the holy things or they will die. The Kohathites are to carry those things that are in the Tent of Meeting.

 

 

 

NIV Numbers 4:19
   So that they may live and not die when they come near the most holy things, do this for them: Aaron and his sons are to go into the sanctuary and assign to each man his work and what he is to carry.

 

NIV Joshua 3:2-4
 2.  After three days the officers went throughout the camp,
 3.  giving orders to the people: "When you see the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, and the priests, who are Levites, carrying it, you are to move out from your positions and follow it.
 4.  Then you will know which way to go, since you have never been this way before. But keep a distance of about a thousand yards  between you and the ark; do not go near it."  

 

 

 

(In II Samuel 6, David was NOT moving the Ark by using the poles!)

 

[darbymcgill]

Let's try again. JS, I'm not purposely being obtuse, can you give me a hint, a wisp, a modicum?

Never mind, I found your point... thanks for the link

[Elsie]

The poster was leaving out Buddhism as a religion in her definition.

I thought it was a life-style. Do the practitioners pray to Buddha?

[stands2reason]

Are you sure you should be playing on the internet?

This is a forum for adults.

I notice you have no evidence to present since there is none, hence the childish replies.

You are being facetious, because you know for a fact that tons of posts providing evidence to support evolution have been presented on these threads.

If I provide links, you'll just ignore them. Have you ever read even one of Ichneumon's posts? Try this.

If you were honest about the fact that you have never been exposed to the evidence, I would treat you with respect you deserve. Since you are not, I treat you with the respect you deserve.

Oh, and in future you might want to keep your posts clear of ad hominems if you want to complain to the mods. Otherwise, it will look like you can dish it out, but you can't take it. Now that's childish.

[Elsie]

elsie has no point...

And getting rounder!

[Elsie]

For example one might not have heard of the Bible at all.

Then he wouldn't have an opinion; would he?