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To: Fruitbat
your "deduction skills" are lessons in paranoia and reading too much into things -- the Cardinal did NOT mention Allah at all in his speech, he never equated Allah to God and gave no indication at all to the (il)legitimacy ofIslam. All he said was "We shouldn't diminish the love and respect Muslims have for their prophet Mohammed. This is very important for them and therefore cannot be the object of derision or ridicule," Similarly you can say: "We shouldn't diminish the love and respect Muslims WWE fans have for their prophet Mohammed wrestler Stone-Cold (ok, I haven't watched it in some time). This is very important for them and therefore cannot be the object of derision or ridicule,"

If someone ridiculed a picture of the Easter Bunny, leprechaun or the Tooth Fairy, would it be this serious.

no, but if someone told your 5 year old that there was no Santa, would you like it?

That, is pretty much one of the major warnings/crux of Christianity. For those that claim to be Christian, validating the gods of others, either directly or indirectly, is a sin.

Again -- there's no validation of gods or goddesses, all he said was to respect the "sentiments" of others -- like not calling someone a redneck or a n**** or a hon** or something.

Since apparently you have little knowledge of the Bible perhaps you shouldn't know this.

I think you probably pick on phrases, so here's one for you -- they read but do not understand

But someone that is supposed to be a figurehead and leader in a "christian" church should know this.

True -- a "Christian" Church is one of the Apostolic Churches -- either belonging to the Assyrian Church or the Oriental Churches (Armenian, Coptic) or the Orthodox or the Catholic (Latin, Maronite, Syro-Malankara, Syro-Malabar etc.). You may put some protesters there as part of the Church (some Anglican peoples -- not ECUSA after Gene Robinson, Baptist peoples, Lutherans etc.), but many don't belong to the Church -- the little sing-along groups are little more than self-help groups with some stage act shouting out slogans loudly and gesticulating widely in front of "mega"-groups (can't call them churches)

Since Allah is a contrivance of Mohammed, what you're saying, or at least defending, would be tantamount to the world saying, "We should all respect Hitler's god (whomever that would be) and not mock it, thereby respectign it/him"

Have you even READ about the cartoon controversy? It's cartoons of Mad Mo, NOT of allah. Furthermore, is it reading or just fabricating wild ideas -- no one said anything about RESPECTING MO or allah, all the Cardinal said was to respect people's sentiments. If my neighbour cares about pot-bellied pigs, I won't go to his house and make fun of pot-bellied pig owners in a way that would offend him.
47 posted on 02/15/2006 8:52:36 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia! Ultra-Catholic)
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To: Cronos
Now you're taking what I said out of context as well, both initially and in my original response. I made some references as to what the Cardinal (and/or Vatican perhaps) said about the muslim faith in one regard or another. Those are in fact in the original piece cited.

You argue like an attorney that is using a "red herring" defense I will say. As well, my original comments were fairly general. You seem to be more prone to arguing for argument's sake here, which is not my intent nor my desire.

I will say this, this is the root of the problem driving, or should I perhaps say "paving" the road for Islam infesting our culture as well as other western cultures, and that is that we have utterly failed to recognize exactly what Islam is, or even what it is not. As long as the majority of people in the world continue to force themselves to believe that the Koran does not condone violence or worldwide takeover/control by muslims, then we may as well try to convince ourselves that as human beings we can fly apart from having an airplane or some sort of engine. The Cardinal did this indirectly argue as you may.

In doing so, whether intentionally or inadvertantly whether ignorantly and naively or not, we put ourselves, necessarily, into the position of not being able to come up with resolutions or solutions to the greater issue or problem of militant Islam. Notice that I didn't say "radical" Islam, because radical Islam isn't the variety that is causing worldwide chaos and terror. "Koranic" Islam is the militant variety.

Anyway, I have no interest in arguing whether or not statements, whether indirect or not, paint an accurate picture of Islam, and you seem to be willing to just argue for whatever your reasons are, also of which I am not interested.

48 posted on 02/15/2006 9:20:02 PM PST by Fruitbat
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