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To: Cronos
Now you're taking what I said out of context as well, both initially and in my original response. I made some references as to what the Cardinal (and/or Vatican perhaps) said about the muslim faith in one regard or another. Those are in fact in the original piece cited.

You argue like an attorney that is using a "red herring" defense I will say. As well, my original comments were fairly general. You seem to be more prone to arguing for argument's sake here, which is not my intent nor my desire.

I will say this, this is the root of the problem driving, or should I perhaps say "paving" the road for Islam infesting our culture as well as other western cultures, and that is that we have utterly failed to recognize exactly what Islam is, or even what it is not. As long as the majority of people in the world continue to force themselves to believe that the Koran does not condone violence or worldwide takeover/control by muslims, then we may as well try to convince ourselves that as human beings we can fly apart from having an airplane or some sort of engine. The Cardinal did this indirectly argue as you may.

In doing so, whether intentionally or inadvertantly whether ignorantly and naively or not, we put ourselves, necessarily, into the position of not being able to come up with resolutions or solutions to the greater issue or problem of militant Islam. Notice that I didn't say "radical" Islam, because radical Islam isn't the variety that is causing worldwide chaos and terror. "Koranic" Islam is the militant variety.

Anyway, I have no interest in arguing whether or not statements, whether indirect or not, paint an accurate picture of Islam, and you seem to be willing to just argue for whatever your reasons are, also of which I am not interested.

48 posted on 02/15/2006 9:20:02 PM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Fruitbat
Now you're taking what I said out of context as well, both initially and in my original response.

aha -- isn't THAT what you're doing to the Cardinal??

read the article -- the Cardinal makes a point of separating God from Allah, like Allah is the Bizzaro-world's idea of God.

As well, my original comments were fairly general

Really? No, they were flamingly anti-Catholic spew without bothering to potray what was REALLY said, but just to make inferences on what you may think was supposedly meant in a round-about way.

Anyway, I have no interest in arguing whether or not statements, whether indirect or not, paint an accurate picture of Islam, and you seem to be willing to just argue for whatever your reasons are, also of which I am not interested.

Again, you aren't reading. No one's talking about painting any picture ofIslam -- accurate or not, all the Cardinal said was to respect "people's sentiments" -- If you care about pot-bellied pigs, I won't go to you house and make fun of pot-bellied pig owners in a way that would offend you. Get it now?
49 posted on 02/15/2006 9:48:50 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia! Ultra-Catholic)
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To: Fruitbat
As long as the majority of people in the world continue to force themselves to believe that the Koran does not condone violence or worldwide takeover/control by muslims, then we may as well try to convince ourselves that as human beings we can fly apart from having an airplane or some sort of engine. The Cardinal did this indirectly argue as you may.

Again, you're jumping to conclusions more sprightly than Carl Lewis -- the Cardinal did NOT indirectly argue this and I didn't.
50 posted on 02/15/2006 9:50:02 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia! Ultra-Catholic)
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