Posted on 02/12/2006 10:32:27 AM PST by PatrickHenry
Cheers!
My company retains 40 year old Fortran as if it were the Tablets of Moses. And it ain't no small company.
That reminds me, wasn't there a recent thread where someone claimed "Nebraska Man" was on the cover of time magazine, and there was some pesky omitted punctuation involved?
Yes, it's a tough scene on the crevo threads. . .
Cheers!
It is different insofar as certain religious beliefs imbued people with the expectation of discoverable rules underlying the universe, and the impetus to discover them.
Putting on shoes in a different order does not inform your philosophical expectations (various pro athletes observing rituals before "the big game" notwithstanding).
Cheers!
...but...but...
then NOBODY will read my puns!
Hey! You forgot the horseshoe crab! :-)
Cheers!
Please don't start a Microsoft/Apple or Microsoft/Linux flamewar too :-)
Cheers!
PS Why "lazy" particularly? Do you have the original design specs for DNA? And do you know the development hardware is free from malware and hackers?
1.Evolutionists have constructed the Geologic Column in order to illustrate the supposed progression of "primitive" life forms to "more complex" systems we observe today.
BUZZ! WRONG! Geologists had described the geological column and the progression of species in it *before* Darwin published Origin of Species. Geologists already knew before Darwin's voyage on the Beagle that (a) the earth is much older than a literal reading of the Bible suggests (b) there has not been a global flood as described in Genesis and (c) fossil species are not the same as modern ones, and look less like modern ones the deeper in strata you go. The geologists influenced the theory of evolution, not the other way round. Those who want to question science should get basic facts about the history of science right.
2.Dr. Thomas Barnes, Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Texas at El Paso, has published the definitive work in this field. Scientific observations since 1829 have shown that the earth's magnetic field has been measurably decaying at an exponential rate, demonstrating its half-life to be approximately 1,400 years. In practical application its strength 20,000 years ago would approximate that of a magnetic star. Under those conditions many of the atoms necessary for life processes could not form. These data demonstrate that earth's entire history is young, within a few thousand of years.
Looking out of my window I can see that the level of the sea is about 1.5 metres lower than it was 1 hour ago. Extrapolating backwards in time I conclude that my house cannot have existed in its current position for more than around a day, and that about a year ago the tops of the tallest mountains on earth were covered. Evidently by the logic of creationists Noah's flood only finished last year.
3. The risible 2% population growth argument has been pulled to pieces by others.
4.The Biblical record clearly describes a global Flood during Noah's day. Additionally, there are hundreds of Flood traditions handed down through cultures all over the world. M.E. Clark and Henry Voss have demonstrated the scientific validity of such a Flood providing the sedimentary layering we see on every continent. Secular scholars report very rapid sedimentation and periods of great carbonate deposition in earth's sedimentary layers. It is now possible to prove the historical reality of the Biblical Flood
Absolutely incredible evidence! Most ancient civilisations (nearly all of which were coastal or by great rivers) have myths about floods in which nearly everybody died. I can't believe how that can be! Can you imagine where these stories come from? Let's go and ask the citizens of S Louisiana, Sri Lanka, and Indonesia if they can imagine where myths of incredibly destructive floods might originate.
On a more serious note the flood model of sedimentary deposition is falsified on numerous cross-confirming pieces of data that confirm mainstream geological observations. Flood geology has no answer for the simple and common phenomenon of angular unconformities (other than frantic handwaving). Likewise flood geology doesn't explain the fossil pattern that we actually have, just one that creation scientists would like us to have. If flood geologists are right then they should understand how to find mineral deposits much better than conventional geologists. Where are their mineral finds that run counter to mainstream expectations? Flood geologists explain the fossil record by suggesting that more modern creatures were "better at running for higher ground" and thus are found higher in the geological column. Presumably more modern plantlife was also "better at running for higher ground"
I think you can see where I am going with all this. I've got too bored to answer the rest of the tripe that you unwittingly repeated. Creation science: It is bad theology, because it is based on lies, and it isn't science at all.
Not brilliant, as you asked. Aged relative problems. :( But I try to keep smiling and get my spirits back up by giving illogic and the rejection of observed reality a good kicking on FR. :)
Even that one doesn't qualify depending on how you wrap your mind around it.
OK. I get the following possibilities.
I still say that the serious contenders are 1 and 2, so we should be agreed that life has appeared on earth from non-life at least once, and that the argument is natural versus supernatural origination.
BTW, you haven't yet answered my questions about the nature of stars. Do you accept that stars are hot balls of fusing gas, inconceivably far away?
I missed the question about the stars. Sometimes, though, in the middle of these discussions with more than a few participants firing questions and comments, things get missed.
The evidence seems to indicate that your definition of star is adequate.
If all of humanity were wiped out except for Noah and his family, then there shouldn't be any Flood traditions from any other cultures. Only Noah's story should survive. The fact that there are hundreds of such tales, each of which somehow survived The Big One spoken of in everybody else's tale, indicates that none of them were global.
That's a good argument. I wish I'd thought of it!
Thanks.
but the difference is that before the bright light, etc., he had gone around dispossessing people of their homes and putting them to death: and AFTER the revelation became better behaved.
By modern Christian standards and what we read of him, probably so. But then the biblical sources of Paul's character is Paul himself, no bias there. ;-)
From the (then) Jewish standard, he went from being a devout upstanding lawman to an heretical apostate luring the faithful into a blasphemous cult of Jesus. Very bad behavior.
Kinda the opposite of those Moose-limb terrorists, BTW.
While I don't hold any love for the muslims, the history of Christianity from 313 to 1649 was hardly christian.
I only hope that it won't take 1,300 years and millions killed before Islam gets there.
How do you reconcile the physical evidence (all of which is inferential rather than direct) with the clear, simple, biblical language that speaks of stars "singing" and "falling to earth". The writers of the Bible had a very different image of stars to the scientific image of stars that has become accepted over the last 200 years. They appear to be quite small and close, probably a few-thousand miles up in the air at most. "Singing" is a clear indication of spiritual lifelike properties but the ancients would have been unaware that the sound of singing doesn't carry through vacuum; they appear to be describing might-spirits or angels, plausible for those who have no cosmology in the modern sense. Why don't you reject the modern astronomical models on the grounds of clear biblical authority? From all appearances you reject the idea that evolution can be reconciled with scripture. How is modern astronomy, with its ridiculous stories of trillions of galaxies each with billions of suns, (99.9999999999999999999% of which cannot be seen without powerful instruments, and whose existence is largely inferred from the fact that distant galaxies look the same as close ones, except smaller because they are further away) reconcilable with scripture, which doesn't even seem to be aware at all that our sun and the stars in the sky are the same class of object?
Further, the "historical Noah tale" believers appear to mostly be unaware that it is a distorted version of an earlier Middle Eastern fable, the "Epic of Gilgamesh", reworked as a morality story of divine retribution for the sins of men. About the only people who don't accept that the Noah story is derived from the Epic of Gilgamesh are Christian Young Earth Creationists. Everyone else, believer or not, accepts the mainstream dating of the two stories.
I was disappointed by the portrayal of scientists in that movie. We're so much cooler and better looking than that :-)
Do they need programmers? :-O
Did you win the powerball?
Yepp, however there are also different ways in which code can be reused.
For some strange reason this ominous designer only reuses code that's been inherited from previous versions but never code from other unrelated 'source code' which means that he has to "reinvent the wheel" quite often.
In other words, if you look at the work of this "designer" you get a treelike structure whereas if you examine the way humans usually design things, you get more of a spider's web.
Designed to hit 2200.
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