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Girls Suspected Of Being Lesbians Expelled From School
ClickonDetroit ^ | December 30, 2005 | AP

Posted on 12/30/2005 4:57:09 AM PST by ShadowDancer

Girls Suspected Of Being Lesbians Expelled From School

Teens File Lawsuit Against School

POSTED: 7:23 am EST December 30, 2005

RIVERSIDE, Calif. -- Two 16-year-olds who were expelled from a Lutheran high school because they were suspected of being lesbians have sued the school for invasion of privacy and discrimination.

The lawsuit, filed last week in Riverside County Superior Court, seeks the girls' re-enrollment at the small California Lutheran High School, unspecified damages and an injunction barring the school from excluding gays and lesbians.

Kirk D. Hanson, an attorney for the girls, said the expulsion traumatized and humiliated them.

"Their entire support network was pulled out from under them because of suspicions about their sexual orientation," said Hanson, who declined to say whether his clients are lesbians.

The school is on Christmas break until next week, and messages left for school officials Thursday were not immediately returned.

The lawsuit alleges that the school's principal, Gregory Bork, called the girls into his office, grilled them on their sexual orientation and "coerced" one girl into saying she loved the other.

The next day, the lawsuit says, Bork told the girls' parents they could not stay at the school with "those feelings." In a Sept. 12 letter to the parents, Bork acknowledged that officials had seen no physical contact between the girls but said their friendship was "uncharacteristic of normal girl relationships and more characteristic of a lesbian one."

"Such a relationship violates our Christian Code of Conduct," Bork wrote in his letter, which was included as an exhibit in the lawsuit. He called the girls' behavior "scandalous" and "immoral."

Hanson said the 142-student school in Wildomar, Calif., must comply with state civil rights laws because it functions as a business by collecting tuition.

"There's a lot of hypocrisy going on here," Hanson said. "The school is claiming the girls were expelled because their conduct wasn't within the Christian code. But at the same time, (the school) has students who aren't Christians and are even Jewish."


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To: robertpaulsen

It was you who raised the homosexual lifetsyle as something that upset your sensibilities, and I was responding to that.


261 posted on 12/31/2005 1:32:35 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: robertpaulsen

You have a remarkably immature point of view on this issue. Nobody is asking you to buddy up and toast drinks with anybody.

My point is simply that if you seriously want to take a posture that is mean to homosexuals, you will be on the losing side of the issue in time.

There is no public mandate to be mean to homosexuals just for the sake of being mean to them. Most americans don't want people fired because they are gay, or thrown out of school. That you have a problem with this places you in the minority, and that does legitimate conservative causes a disservice.


262 posted on 12/31/2005 1:35:40 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: robertpaulsen

I have no idea what comprises the psychological makeup of the average homosexual, but my feeling is neither do you.

Someone who is gay but otherwise a productive member of society shouldn't suffer the loss of a job, etc because they get excited by members of the same sex.

Their sex life is none of your business. Victimizing people because of their sexual taste alienates you from most people, and won't alienate gays from most people.

Just let them be and craft smart public policy around things worth fighting. A posture that seeks to stigmatize or victimize gays is a loser.

If you had any clarity you would understand that.


263 posted on 12/31/2005 1:38:38 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: don asmussen; robertpaulsen
Ultimately, most people do have a problem with people being 'persecuted' for non-criminal private behavior. You are correct.

My point is ultimately something robertpaulsen can't cope with. I'm not saying so much that he is right or wrong. The important thing is that he is in the minority when it comes to crafting public policy. Most people don't care much when it comes to gays, but are willing to draw lines when it comes to defining marriage, etc.

I think that's entirely fair. Some folks mistake that broad sentiment as a powerful mandate against everything gay. It's not. As I said, most people don't care much, but find it basically unappealing that a gay person be denied a job, an apartment, etc only because of their sexual taste.

Strongly anti gay folks just can't cope with that. My point ultimately is that overstating the anti gay mandate is a loser of an agenda. People on FR or elsewhere can roll their eyes, stomp their feet, and engage in overstatement and hysterics, but it's still true.

Personally, I don't see what's so conservative about being so interested in what gets a particular person sexually excited, and what gives some people satisfaction when a gay person is unduly treated unfairly.

That's just not conservative. It's something else, but its not conservative.
264 posted on 12/31/2005 1:45:56 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: nmh

"Gays are NOT happy people"

No, they're not. They are, in fact, very unhappy and empty people.

As for the rest of the post, read every statement and every sentence carefully and for a moment I thought it was me writing what you did. I couldn't have said it better myself, nmh, I didn't because I couldn't. You have put into words exactly my sentiments and I thank you for it.

God bless you and a happy and healthy 2006 and beyond.


265 posted on 12/31/2005 4:14:09 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: HitmanNY
"It was you who raised the homosexual lifetsyle as something that upset your sensibilities, and I was responding to that."

You responded to it in a manner which limited the homosexual lifestyle to "sexual feelings". It goes well beyond "feelings" -- it's the behavior to which I object.

266 posted on 01/01/2006 6:58:29 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: HitmanNY
"Most americans don't want people fired because they are gay ..."

And I'm one of them. But I do want the option to fire anyone whose behavior is disruptive to my business.

"... or thrown out of school

Again, if the behavior goes against the standards set by the school, adios muchachas.

"That you have a problem with this places you in the minority, and that does legitimate conservative causes a disservice."

Oh, I think my stance on this issue represents the conservative position quite accurately. Your position, on the other hand, aligns you with the politically correct, immoral, ACLU liberals.

267 posted on 01/01/2006 7:16:09 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: HitmanNY
"I have no idea what comprises the psychological makeup of the average homosexual, but my feeling is neither do you."

Wha??? Psychological makeup? Where do you come up with these?

I said the statement, "Gays are just like heterosexuals -- they just happen to prefer people of the same sex" is the second biggest scam being played on the American public (the first being "medical" marijuana). Gays are NOT just like us. The gay lifestyle represents our deviant side -- it is selfish, immoral, dangerous, hedonistic, immature, and disruptive to a healthy and functioning society.

Why would I want to employ a woman in accounting who "acts upon that instinct" with the other women I employ? I no more want that woman as my employee than I would a heterosexual man who acted upon his instinct with the women I employ.

I'm running a friggin' business here, not some ACLU workshop! Keep your namby-pamby touchy-feely nose out of my livelihood.

268 posted on 01/01/2006 7:32:24 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

Such anger.


269 posted on 01/01/2006 9:16:23 AM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: HitmanNY

Lesson #1: Don't ever f#$@ with a man's income. You should know better.


270 posted on 01/01/2006 9:20:30 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

I do know better.


271 posted on 01/01/2006 9:34:09 AM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: Woman on Caroline Street
Is a refund to the parents who paid for their daughters to go to school at this "institution" in the mail yet?
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They "paid" for an education. Not the right to run over the behavioral code of the school. Most Christian schools have a dress code, does paying tuition allow the girls to wear g-strings and tank tops to school instead of abiding by the dress code? "Paying your money" doesn't buy you the right to destroy the fabric of the school in the process of expressing your individuality.
272 posted on 01/01/2006 2:53:28 PM PST by photodawg
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To: don asmussen
As a rule of thumb, MR Israel has nailed the numbers.

From the Locker Room.

A STUD is a guy that claims dozens of conquests.
A SLUT is a gal assumed to have had a dozen or more.
Male Homosexuals report hundreds of encounters and expire in there 40's.

Because the public is subsidizing the educating of these fellows, should we be pleased with their brief useful contribution to society? The whole subject is sad.

Remember, the indiscretion of homosexuals brings their behavior to light, no one appreciates the in your face agenda and schoolroom recruiting tactics, we have had it up to the nostrils.
273 posted on 01/01/2006 11:25:49 PM PST by captain anode ("love it or leave it" Ramsey is a bottom feeder.)
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To: captain anode; HitmanNY
I favor MR Hitman's approach to the problem..

-- As I noted at #258:

Sure, others can disapprove, even 'reasonably regulate' public aspects of such behavior; -- the line is to be drawn at criminalizing/prohibiting such private nonviolent behaviors.
274 posted on 01/02/2006 8:06:35 AM PST by don asmussen
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To: nmh
It's precisely this kind of sympathy for perversion that keeps this crap alive and being crammed down our throats. Unfortunate turn of phrase there.....
275 posted on 01/03/2006 5:07:14 AM PST by vimto (Life isn't a dry run)
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To: HitmanNY

Recent state referendums on homosexual marriage indicate that it is your positions that are "in the minority", and that people DO care and are negatively disposed towards mainstreaming and normalizing homosexuality. Despite your awkward and unrealistic compartmnentalizing of the marriage issue, too.


276 posted on 01/03/2006 5:14:53 AM PST by bvw
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To: robertpaulsen
As to statistics, the following table shows that after 5-10 years, the odds are greater for the marriage failing between different races.

According to that chart, a "White/Other" relationship has slightly less of a failure rate. I'm assuming this means that my aforementioned relationship between me (a honky) and my girlfriend (the hispanic) is off to a good start, or am I misreading the data?

Anyhow, I trust we would both agree that a father who disowns a child over an interracial relationship is an ignorant boob.

277 posted on 01/03/2006 10:46:00 AM PST by jmc813
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To: jmc813
"I'm assuming this means that my aforementioned relationship between me (a honky) and my girlfriend (the hispanic) is off to a good start, or am I misreading the data?"

It's doomed to failure.

278 posted on 01/03/2006 12:12:29 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
It's doomed to failure.

Are you being sarcastic, or do you really think I should not pursue this relationship? I pretty sure my sarcasm detector is not properly calibrated.

279 posted on 01/03/2006 12:40:53 PM PST by jmc813
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To: jmc813

I was being sarcastic. I don't see why it wouldn't work. It's just that, statistically, it has a lesser chance of success.


280 posted on 01/03/2006 1:07:12 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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