Posted on 12/20/2005 7:54:38 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
Fox News alert a few minutes ago says the Dover School Board lost their bid to have Intelligent Design introduced into high school biology classes. The federal judge ruled that their case was based on the premise that Darwin's Theory of Evolution was incompatible with religion, and that this premise is false.
"Who said I was a creationist? Who said I didn't believe in evolution? What are doing, taking words out of my mouth? Huh, are you? Are you?"
And the Meltdown continues. :)
BTW, I never said ANYTHING about you. :)
Thanks for reply.
So you're saying that federal judges should step in and intervene and decide whats right and whats wrong? Is that what you're saying?
I highly doubt if the Supreme Court stepped in and said that socialism and communism must be taught in schools that you'd say the same thing, would you?
So, Darwin estimated the age of earth at a couple hundred million years.
You reckon we should keep using that number?
Is evolution science?
Isn't it nice to know I'm way ahead of you on that one? :>)
I have never quite figured out how Joseph figures into this geneology. Particularly when you consider that prior to the microscope, men supposedly contributed 100 percent of the material for the fetus.
Teach whatever you want to in public school, I don't know any responsible parents who are still sending their children there.
The criticism is valid or it is not.
The ID math says that it is.
There's some math, so far poorly explained, that says that the ID math isn't all it's cracked up to be.
I know enough about science to recognize it is limited, and thus expresses itself predominantly in terms of theories which, by definition, are not absolute proofs.
We should update our beliefs as new evidence is found, like rational people do and creationists don't.
As the time needed to go from single celled organisms to the current state of things, it's remarkably accurate. It is essentially the period since the early Cambrian.
Last time I heard it was something like 4 billion years.
"The test of science is not how provable a theory is, but how reasonable it is."
"Many thanks for demonstrating that you don't know jack about science or the scientific method."
So it is reasonable to believe the universe magically appeared out of nothing. It is reasonable to believe that the complexity of the human eye, the human brain, everything we see was the result of random chance. It is reasonable to believe all the variables required for life on earth just happened. It is reasonable to believe in evolotion (macro) without any evidence to support that theory.
Not to intrude, but there is no such thing as the "scientific method." aka the "magical" or "mythical" scientific method. Another misperception, fostered by K-6 grade Science Books.
Scientists use many different methods.
Selection is the opposite of random.
that which survives and that which dies sometimes has nothing to do with anything other than pure chance.
Sometimes. But sometimes not.
We're going through evolutionary pressures right now because of (sun caused) global warming. I live on the edge of a tree micro climate, and that edge is creeping to a point where I expect this house will be in a field in 50 years.
Granted, this property will likely be populated with existing species. But the *individual* plants will die out, and be replaced by others because of natural selection by climate.
If we had only a field grass, but no trees, there would be a condition that favored the evolution of trees, and no doubt it would happen in a few million years. This is how selection aids evolution.
Climate is only one method of selection. It can be sexual selection, cultural, predation, many things. Those are the details of evolution still being worked out.
Don't tell anybody, but it's by design.
I hope you reconsider your position. Judges usurping the powers of the elected officials is supremely dangerous.
If God didn't created anything. Why do you believe in God?
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