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To: andysandmikesmom; Baraonda; eleni121
I guess you have to say that, to give yourself some comfort, knowing that millions and millions of people do believe in the truth of the Bible, and do believe in evolution...

People can CLAIM they believe the Bible, but when they discard parts of it, they can not be said to actually believe it. And if the don't believe it, but keep claiming that they do, they're just plain old Schizophrenics or maybe just drunks.

850 posted on 12/17/2005 9:04:52 PM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: Full Court

I believe in organized religion.


852 posted on 12/17/2005 9:07:34 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: Full Court; andysandmikesmom; Baraonda

"People can CLAIM they believe the Bible, but when they discard parts of it, they can not be said to actually believe it. And if the don't believe it, but keep claiming that they do, they're just plain old Schizophrenics or maybe just drunks."

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Well said. Are you listening Mumsie?


855 posted on 12/17/2005 9:09:44 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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Oh, so now you are a doctor deciding who is a Schizophrenic..creationists acting as if they are doctors seems to be a new trend...first prescribing meds, and now making a diagnosis...is this a trend?

Are you calling me a drunk?...because if you are, you are a liar, ,and you are bearing false witness...which would show, ,that perhaps you dont believe parts of the Bible either...


860 posted on 12/17/2005 9:21:06 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: Full Court; andysandmikesmom; Baraonda; eleni121
 
 

 I guess you have to say that, to give yourself some comfort, knowing that millions and millions of people do believe in the truth of the Bible, and do believe in evolution...

People can CLAIM they believe the Bible, but when they discard parts of it, they can not be said to actually believe it. And if the don't believe it, but keep claiming that they do, they're just plain old Schizophrenics or maybe just drunks. 

Like this???



 
 
Most Christians 'believe' Evolution because they do NOT know what their Bible says.  If, as they say, they 'believe' the words of Jesus and then of the New Testament writers, they have to decide what the following verses mean:
 
Romans 5:12-21
 12.  Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned--
 13.  for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law.
 14.  Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.
 15.  But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
 16.  Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man's sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.
 17.  For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
 18.  Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.
 19.  For just as through the disobedience of the one man, the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
 20.  The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,
 21.  so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
 
 
 
If there were  no one man, that means SIN did NOT enter the World thru him.
 
If Adam was NOT the one man, that means SPIRITUAL DEATH did not come thru him.
 
If SIN did NOT enter the World thru the one man, that means Jesus does not save from SIN.
 
 
Are we to believe that the one man is symbolic?  Does that mean Jesus is symbolic as well?
 
 
The Theory of Evolution states that there WAS no one man, but a wide population that managed to inherit that last mutated gene that makes MEN different from APES.
 
 
 
 
1 Timothy 2:13
  For Adam was formed first, then Eve.   Was Paul WRONG about this???
 
 
 

1,555 posted on 12/19/2005 5:37:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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