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Majority of Americans Reject Secular Evolution (Gallup Poll, Sep. 2005)
BP News (Baptist Press) ^ | October 19, 2005 | Michael Foust

Posted on 10/23/2005 12:06:32 AM PDT by GretchenM

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For anyone seeking facts on the debate, I highly recommend this book.

Tornado in a Junkyard: The Relentless Myth of Darwinism, by James Perloff
Dr. EMMETT L. WILLIAMS, PRESIDENT, CREATION RESEARCH SOCIETY, EDITOR, CREATION RESEARCH QUARTERLY "Tornado in a Junkyard is a unique presentation of the scientific case against Darwinism, informally written for laymen. If you are looking for a user-friendly explanation of the facts supporting creation, this book is for you."

This book examines growing scientific evidence that is challenging Darwin's theory of evolution: lack of transitional forms in the fossil record, the impossibility of mutations (almost universally destructive) serving as evolutionary building blocks, the bad logic of natural selection theory, the stunning lack of evidence for "ape-men," the mathematic impossibility of life beginning by itself, [and] more. Also explores how Darwinism helped foster Hitler's racial policies and examines how Inherit the Wind grossly misled Americans about the Scopes trial. Addresses the ever-vital question: Are we here by chance or are we created by God? Indexed, over 80 illustrations, hundreds of quotes from scientists.

1 posted on 10/23/2005 12:06:32 AM PDT by GretchenM
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To: metmom

FYI


2 posted on 10/23/2005 12:07:50 AM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: GretchenM

50% of americans have IQ's below 100 (by definition).


3 posted on 10/23/2005 12:12:16 AM PDT by exDemocratbutnotRepubican
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To: GretchenM

"God created human beings in their present form exactly the way the Bible describes it."
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And how does the Bible describe it? You have the literalists and the figurativelists and even they disagree among themselves.

A slightly misleading question, but I'm not sure how you would phrase it to more accurately capture the essence of what people think....


4 posted on 10/23/2005 12:14:01 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/secondaryproblemsofsocialism.htm)
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To: GretchenM
Evolution teaches, in part, that humans evolved over millions of years from apes.

Sigh... No, it does no such thing.

When one reads this in an article, one despairs at any possibility of an intelligent discussion.

5 posted on 10/23/2005 12:14:06 AM PDT by adamsjas
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To: GretchenM

Science isn't conducted by polls.


6 posted on 10/23/2005 12:14:55 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: GretchenM

Some key points here - only 35% find conflict between their view of science and relgion.

It's mainly poor people that believe in strict creationsim it starts at 70% with income under $20,000 and drops to 37% with higher income.


http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2005-10-10-evolution-debate-centerpiece_x.htm?POE=TECISVA


7 posted on 10/23/2005 12:24:52 AM PDT by gondramB
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To: exDemocratbutnotRepubican

But they still get to vote.


9 posted on 10/23/2005 3:00:04 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: adamsjas

Then what is your interpretation of TOE regarding humans?


10 posted on 10/23/2005 3:00:57 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: gondramB
My income is over $20,000 and my IQ is almost 140 and I believe God created the heavens and the earth and humans as they are today. I guess I must be an aberration.
11 posted on 10/23/2005 3:02:28 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: exDemocratbutnotRepubican
50% of americans have IQ's below 100 (by definition).

That explains why some of them believe in evolution I guess...

Honestly, if evolution was real, we would all be sprouting useless apendages constantly in attempts to evolve. But, none of the dead ends exist, therefore evolution does not exist.

12 posted on 10/23/2005 3:06:23 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: traviskicks

And how does the Bible describe it? You have the literalists and the figurativelists and even they disagree among themselves.

Yes, there is more than one version of creationism. Which one do you teach? In my Sunday school class, all 10 adults had 10 different ideas about it. While I strongly believe in creationism, one must acknowledge there is more than one version of it. Some believe in the 4000 years things, others believe the process took longer, still others believe something else. ID is an attempt to put some science into creationism, however the basic premise is still the same--that a higher power (i.e. God) created things.


13 posted on 10/23/2005 3:17:09 AM PDT by moog
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ID is an attempt to put some science into creationism, however the basic premise is still the same--that a higher power (i.e. God) created things.

Finally, an honest definition of ID.

14 posted on 10/23/2005 3:20:18 AM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: American in Israel
That explains why some of them believe in evolution I guess... Honestly, if evolution was real, we would all be sprouting useless apendages constantly in attempts to evolve. But, none of the dead ends exist, therefore evolution does not exist. Hehe. Even as a creationist, I do believe that some parts of evolution do happen. Things do adapt to their surroundings in order to keep on going. If they don't, they die out. Humans have done this for a long time. Just think about how much in the last 100 years that we have "evolved" or maybe in other ways "de-evolved:)." There are certain rodents, even in the US, that are "evolving" into other species because of being isolated or new conditions. Animals have developed adaptations for protection--the monarch butterfly eats milkweed which birds hate the taste of, another butterfly has developed so it looks like the monarch butterfly, others develop "eye" patches, some flowers have even devloped features that look like the female of a certain kind of insect in order to trick it into "mating" with the flower and thus propagate the flower species (not through the act, but through pollen of course:), and so on. Of course, I believe the mechanism is God, but that's my opinion.

Now what should I do with this tentacle growing from my nose?:)

15 posted on 10/23/2005 3:25:02 AM PDT by moog
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To: Wormwood
Finally, an honest definition of ID. Thanks. I'm actually am a very strong believer in creationism, but I've never had trouble with evolution. I've always believed God was behind it. Yes, there were dinosaurs. Yes, there were other ancient life forms. Yes, there are fossils. Yes, there have been cataclysmic events. How do I reconcile it and creation? Admit that I don't know everything and go on with things. I will probably find out everything after I die. I can continue to learn things from both sides that help me formulate my own opinion. The more important issue to me is where I'm going after I die and how to get there. What's happened before has already happened.

Saying that, I can't resist these evolution threads sometimes because it is always so doggone entertaining.

16 posted on 10/23/2005 3:31:20 AM PDT by moog
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Finally, an honest definition of ID.

I forgot the italics tag--AGAIN!!

Thanks. I'm actually am a very strong believer in creationism, but I've never had trouble with evolution. I've always believed God was behind it. Yes, there were dinosaurs. Yes, there were other ancient life forms. Yes, there are fossils. Yes, there have been cataclysmic events. How do I reconcile it and creation? Admit that I don't know everything and go on with things. I will probably find out everything after I die. I can continue to learn things from both sides that help me formulate my own opinion. The more important issue to me is where I'm going after I die and how to get there. What's happened before has already happened.

Saying that, I can't resist these evolution threads sometimes because it is always so doggone entertaining.

17 posted on 10/23/2005 3:32:16 AM PDT by moog
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To: American in Israel
But, none of the dead ends exist, therefore evolution does not exist.

What about the appendix?

18 posted on 10/23/2005 3:34:28 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: exDemocratbutnotRepubican

And the relevance of this is . . . ..
? ? ? ? ? ?


19 posted on 10/23/2005 3:48:48 AM PDT by Elsiejay (Forever wondering)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

What about the appendix?

Take that one out:).


20 posted on 10/23/2005 4:02:23 AM PDT by moog
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