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To: gondramB
My income is over $20,000 and my IQ is almost 140 and I believe God created the heavens and the earth and humans as they are today. I guess I must be an aberration.
11 posted on 10/23/2005 3:02:28 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
I don't understand what the course of study would be with ID. What text book would you use to explain that an intelligent presence had a role in creation? Anything they tried to say further than that would be stomping on everyone's religious rights because where do you teach from there? That perhaps it could have been Aliens from Mars? A Wheel Mothership? God? Who's God and in what way and how? I have my own beliefs but they were not taught to me in school. Science class is for science and Darwin's Theory of evolution is just that, A theory, and the students know that. ID in classes would basically involve the teacher telling the students:

"Intelligent Design (or ID) is the controversial assertion that certain features of the universe and of living things exhibit the characteristics of a product resulting from an intelligent cause or agent, not an unguided process such as natural selection. Though publicly most ID advocates state that their focus is on detecting evidence of design in nature without regard to who or what the designer might be, in statements to their constituents and supporters, nearly all state explicitly that they believe the designer to be God (as understood in the Christian tradition)."

So, from that point, what exactly would you teach the children? About who the designer may be? How the designer may have had an influence on creation and/or evolution? To do that you would have to use books that explain these different Intelligent Designers. Where do we get these books and ideas of these intelligent designers? Well I can think of many but the Bible comes quickly to mind. So now that we're teaching ID we need to teach about the designer and how he designed it. Right?

Sounds like Sunday School to me and the students can attend those on their own accord, not forced upon them at public school.

Instead of teaching our kids different "beliefs" on who the designer possibly is and what role this designer possibly played,  we say Darwin's theory is a scientific theory and some believe there may be an intelligent designer and it's up to you students to decide what you want to believe in so here in school we will teach biology and the theory of evolution and if you want to learn about Intelligent Design then You need to go to church or wherever you decide to find enlightenment on the creator of your choosing.

27 posted on 10/23/2005 5:31:15 AM PDT by md2576 (Don't be such a Shehan Hugger!)
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To: mlc9852

"My income is over $20,000 and my IQ is almost 140 and I believe God created the heavens and the earth and humans as they are today. I guess I must be an aberration."

It puts you in the minority but that;s not always a bad thing...

I'm curious though - how do you reconcile that position with radioactive dating and the fossil record. I've heard some people say God created those contradictions to test our faith in the bible - is that how you feel?


68 posted on 10/23/2005 10:43:39 AM PDT by gondramB
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To: mlc9852
God created the heavens and the earth and humans as they are today.

Earth has several holes in it that were not there when it was created. The heavens are certainly not as they were when they were created. Humans didn't know how to drive SUVs when they were in the Garden. There have been some changes.

112 posted on 10/23/2005 11:48:28 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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