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To: mlc9852
I don't understand what the course of study would be with ID. What text book would you use to explain that an intelligent presence had a role in creation? Anything they tried to say further than that would be stomping on everyone's religious rights because where do you teach from there? That perhaps it could have been Aliens from Mars? A Wheel Mothership? God? Who's God and in what way and how? I have my own beliefs but they were not taught to me in school. Science class is for science and Darwin's Theory of evolution is just that, A theory, and the students know that. ID in classes would basically involve the teacher telling the students:

"Intelligent Design (or ID) is the controversial assertion that certain features of the universe and of living things exhibit the characteristics of a product resulting from an intelligent cause or agent, not an unguided process such as natural selection. Though publicly most ID advocates state that their focus is on detecting evidence of design in nature without regard to who or what the designer might be, in statements to their constituents and supporters, nearly all state explicitly that they believe the designer to be God (as understood in the Christian tradition)."

So, from that point, what exactly would you teach the children? About who the designer may be? How the designer may have had an influence on creation and/or evolution? To do that you would have to use books that explain these different Intelligent Designers. Where do we get these books and ideas of these intelligent designers? Well I can think of many but the Bible comes quickly to mind. So now that we're teaching ID we need to teach about the designer and how he designed it. Right?

Sounds like Sunday School to me and the students can attend those on their own accord, not forced upon them at public school.

Instead of teaching our kids different "beliefs" on who the designer possibly is and what role this designer possibly played,  we say Darwin's theory is a scientific theory and some believe there may be an intelligent designer and it's up to you students to decide what you want to believe in so here in school we will teach biology and the theory of evolution and if you want to learn about Intelligent Design then You need to go to church or wherever you decide to find enlightenment on the creator of your choosing.

27 posted on 10/23/2005 5:31:15 AM PDT by md2576 (Don't be such a Shehan Hugger!)
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To: md2576
"Sounds like Sunday School to me and the students can attend those on their own accord, not forced upon them at public school."


I have prayed that the Lord Jesus will bring an end to the public school system which destroys all of America's children's future.
So many fables taught by a relentless union of largely radical feminists who are more interested in their salaries and the agenda of homosexual recruitment as well as politically correct fascism.
It is time for the liberal left fascists to stop using the public school system to force their fascist agenda on helpless children.
The public school system is a wreak and needs to be destroyed asap and all union teachers be fired and replaced with those who will only teach the things that were once taught and benifited America's children, such as reading,writing,arithmetic,history and science.
Death to the politically created institutions that indoctrinate children against truth and destroy their futures.
30 posted on 10/23/2005 6:34:32 AM PDT by ohhhh (God only is good, Jesus is Christ, and I am saved by grace through faith only!)
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To: md2576
Science class is for science and Darwin's Theory of evolution is just that,...

No, it is not.

Evolutionist theory rests entirely upon a presupposition that life is an immaculate conception.

Think about that one for a minute...

The “origin of species” is rooted in the idea of a singularity: the mechanics of the DNA molecule. All species of Terran life has it. Like the singularity of the “Big Bang” theory, the two are categorically inseparable as immaculate conceptions. It only takes a mere application of logic.

The perplexing question of human origin from a common ancestor to apes is even more problematic. According to evolutionary theory, humans (homo sapiens) did not descend from apes, but from some “missing link.” Although Dr. Louis Leaky spent decades searching and found zinjanthropus and homo habilis, Olduvai Gorge gave no answers. Logic also suggests in order to “descend,” there has to be something you descend from and something you ascend to.

Evolutionary theory, rooted in the universal human dissatisfaction for mortality is a vain search for human origin(s), an attempt to rationalize a yearning for connection to something eternal.

Now, since nobody really knows the answers, it is only a scientific method to consider all points of view on the issue in educational settings. To do otherwise would be like students dancing around totems, with professors as witch doctors proclaiming intellectual taboos and making sacrifices.

This is far worse than what the ersatz secularists accuse the creationists of doing!

34 posted on 10/23/2005 6:48:09 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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