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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16
Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

Posted on 08/26/2005 4:40:09 PM PDT by TexKat

Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)

Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)


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To: Fritzy

Glad to be of service! :o)


261 posted on 08/27/2005 8:27:29 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: Mean Maryjean

Ted had his moment in the spotlight with the DC sniper. Fox signed him to a contract as an expert and I am sure there is pressure to use him although he rarely adds any useful insights. His verbal skills provide some amusement, however. A refreshing change from that Princeton fop Geraldo (you will be glad to know that Geraldo was the freshman roommate of a friend of mine who said that Geraldo was pretty much the same as a freshman - arrogant, pushy, willing to say things that were ridiculous so that he could get his ya-yas by convincing people he was right). Fox has really assembled a team of blowhards and bozos. Maybe they should be called "The B Team."

Too bad Rita "According to my sources" Crosby has left - it makes Fox less amusing to watch.


262 posted on 08/27/2005 8:32:15 AM PDT by whitedog57 (Holland)
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To: Peach
I know that the Kalpoe brothers were arrested for the rape and murder of an unknown person, but we are all pretty sure they are referring to Natalee, aren't we? I haven't kept up on this case for weeks now and maybe there's something else going on that I don't know about.

I'd guess it would be over Natalee Halloway. But I suppose there is the outside chance that it is actually over some other tourist/islander from their past where some evidence finally came together. No idea who, though.

And suppose they did cacth these two over over a totally different case. Could be Joran is involved in that, too. But imagine this: "We have the evidence to get you two over a different case, but we can't get your buddy Joran, whome we know you're tight with. And he may go free soon over the Halloway case. If Joran is involved, is there any way you can help us with a lead in either case?" I imagine toungues would start wagging then.

Of course, those are BIG IFs.

263 posted on 08/27/2005 8:33:43 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: maggief; imaketypos

This very interesting information and I think it needs to be scrutinized. What better scenario than to have a C&C connection if you are looking to find/or drug young women. Seems C&C doesn't do a very good job of carding the young people. Seems Joran has been going there for over a year, as some of the pics from C&C are dated early 2004. If this 16 year girl that is pressing charges was with Joran at C&C's early this spring...well, is that a coincidence? hmm.

I would think that if there is a connection to someone in Miami and they can be linked to Natalee's disappearance in any way at all that should open the door for the FBI to get/be more involved.

As far as Lacle, don't know if he is related to Tito or not. It's hard to tell down there. There is another person I saw that was involved in settling some property issues for some people on the island a year or so ago...a woman whose last name is Lacle...Tito is single...so he says. Don't know who she could be related to...Garrick? Tito?

Julia Refro is a mystery at this point. Seems to be a little unhappy with Americans and is in a position to 'shape the minds' of the Aruban population thru Aruba Today.

So so many connections. This is a scarry place..imo


264 posted on 08/27/2005 8:36:28 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Well, you make an excellent point. As I read your post it took me back to the idea that Natalee was alive when Beth first came to the island. Could the conspiracy have developed after that?


265 posted on 08/27/2005 8:38:54 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: theophilusscribe
Jossy: I think all three are equally involved. As far as further developments in the case, that PVDS is involved as well.

Wonder how much longer PVDS will be walking around a free man...

266 posted on 08/27/2005 8:45:54 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: truthluva

I'm going to do a little more digging tonight to see if there are any connections. Ping me if you find anything, please, and I'll do likewise.

bbl


267 posted on 08/27/2005 8:49:02 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
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To: truthluva

Beth et al arriving surely made the case too hot too fast.

and also would have interrupted any plans such as postulated in #250.


268 posted on 08/27/2005 8:50:14 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: truthluva

you have mail


269 posted on 08/27/2005 8:52:33 AM PDT by imaketypos
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To: maggief

Yeah...me too. I'd like to see if there is anything out there that loops this together.


270 posted on 08/27/2005 8:54:33 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: All
Just catching up this AM... one insane thought hit me... do we suppose the Kalpoes/Freddie/Who ever would have a picture of Natalee... after the events???? If that is their usual process.....
If she was taken back to the Apartment.. with Freddie called to the Apartment - he lives close at hand -.. this could be the case.. taking some erotic pictures and perhaps saving the pictures for sale after the initial "lost - run away" tourist concerns blow over.. or perhaps sending Natalee to some other port for further activity..not knowing of the Holloway/Twiddy courage to find their daughter... so while Freddie stood by Joran as an alibi.. the Kalpoe's (family.brothers ?) covered with the electronic process.. Of course.. it could be that "something bad happened" during these events which demanded a different closure.. perhaps that is when Joran's father was called in..
This could be a usual journey for these people.. they have just not come up against the American spirit and commitment encased in robust energy as demonstrated by Natalee's family...
Just a thought for early Saturday morning...
271 posted on 08/27/2005 8:54:44 AM PDT by Fritzy (Fritzy)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

This possibility distresses me. To think it could have happened on this timeline would break my heart.


272 posted on 08/27/2005 8:55:38 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: truthluva; justche; maggief; TexKat
I just found something.

Shango is not only a mythical god...he is also the lead character in a play by the Nigerian playwright, Femi Osofisan. The play is Many Colors Make the Thunder-King. In this play, Shango seeks the truth by confronting riddles. I am looking for the text but so far no luck.

The book is available at Amazon.

Here is a link to a review of the play as it was presented by Guthrie Labs (a theater company, I guess) in Minneapolis...

Many Colors Make the Thunder-King

273 posted on 08/27/2005 8:57:23 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: imaketypos

Got it...hang on...wanna check something. brb


274 posted on 08/27/2005 8:58:21 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: truthluva

And the tone is wrong...it doesn't ring true. It's just OFF.


275 posted on 08/27/2005 8:58:40 AM PDT by Mama25 (The only chaps a girl can trust are those she wears)
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To: VA40; ncpatriot; LongViewSC

It has been suggested that the gang sign the "Pimps" are making has a sexual connotation regarding women.


276 posted on 08/27/2005 9:00:19 AM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: Dark Skies

OMG...this is VERY interesting. I'll be looking around for that as well. Thanks!!


277 posted on 08/27/2005 9:00:34 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Dark Skies

There is a book titled Crimson Monkeys written by Darren Franz. It appears to be a horror story. Don't know if this adds anything for those of you who keep up on the Shango angle.


278 posted on 08/27/2005 9:04:44 AM PDT by imaketypos
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To: truthluva

I posted this before but I truly think C&C is in on this somehow. I think it's a procurement point, set up by a bartender on the take, of pretty young woman. Natalee became a target because she had too much to drink and was easily accessible.


279 posted on 08/27/2005 9:05:45 AM PDT by Lucky2 (Lucky2 loves the NY Yankees.)
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To: whitedog57
"According to my sources"

LOL! Does she do that on MSNBC now? My husband and I used to laugh so hard every time we watched her. She really has a self-inflated image of her journalism ability.
280 posted on 08/27/2005 9:12:36 AM PDT by looney tune
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