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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 15
Various News Outlets | 8/19/05

Posted on 08/19/2005 7:02:03 AM PDT by TexKat

Profile of Natalee Holloway

Missing: Natalee Holloway participated in a trip with 125 seniors from Mountain Brook High School to Aruba in the Caribbean. In the early morning hours on May 30, 2005 Natalee was seen leaving a nightclub and getting into a vehicle. She failed to turn up Monday morning for her return flight home and she has not been seen since. Foul play is suspected in her disappearance.

Profile: Natalee Holloway was born on October 21, 1986 to Beth and Dave Holloway. She grew up in the close-knit community of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama. She was very popular and respected by her classmates and had a reputation among peers at being very intelligent and focused on her future. She lived up to her reputation, graduating as an honors student from the Mountain Brook High School.

Extracurricular Activities: During Natalle's high school years she participated several extracurricular activities including: The American Field Service - A club which interacts with the foreign exchange students. Dorians Dance Team Future Business Leaders of America Mu Alpha Theta - Math honor society Natural Helpers - A peer based emotional support group. Outdoors Club Spanish Club Spanish Honor Society Spartan Pride - School pep group. TASC - Teens Actively Serving the Community

Future Goals: Natalee received a full scholarship to the University of Alabama. She planned to major in Pre-Med, in order to pursue her goal of being a pediatrician.


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To: presently no screen name

No, its absurd to think that the lack of a long list of date-raped and/or missing girls means that this Joran and his two sidekicks are innocent.

Other victims would establish a pattern of conduct, other dates could be checked, etc. This was quite possibly his first attempt. And remember, if he convinced her that this car was a taxi, he needn't have used any drug at all. He is big and strong. By the time she realized they were going past the Holiday Inn, what could she do? She has been described as being everything from a saint to a slut. If she was raped, but not drugged, and it turned out to have been her first time, she may have been killed simply because the cops would know that she had not consented to her first time being with three strange men in the back seat of a car on an Aruban beach. If she was drugged, it may have been an overdose or idiosyncratic reaction. Even if she was very sexually active, the murder could have been sparked by the near bar fight with an American lad. I'm not saying the absence of a long list of victims makes Joran innocent; only that it robs us of supporting evidence.

I just don't see there being that much crime against tourists there. Natalee has indeed made her mark in the world, but its not the one that was expected of her.


861 posted on 08/22/2005 5:49:23 PM PDT by TinkersDam
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To: All

Just for the record, my goddaughter went on the trip - the kids think Natalee thought she was getting into a cab to go back to the Holiday Inn with Joran and everybody else, she would have never gone with those three guys and she met Joran that night.


862 posted on 08/22/2005 5:55:00 PM PDT by kcat
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To: truthluva
From Bill O'Reilly The Factor:

Misleading Bloviating Advertisement!!!

863 posted on 08/22/2005 6:04:18 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: kcat

I'd also read that she was worried she'd miss the plane, was tired from scuba diving all day, and fully intended to go back to the hotel.


864 posted on 08/22/2005 6:05:04 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: kcat

Thanks Kcat. That's what Beth has said all along!!


865 posted on 08/22/2005 6:05:19 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: TexKat

O'Reilly might as well have had Anita van der Sloot on.....


866 posted on 08/22/2005 6:08:48 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: kcat; Canadian Outrage; monkeywrench
and she met Joran that night.

There is another MB female student that has been reported as stating that she and Natalee met Joran the day before. I will see if I can find the article/s.

867 posted on 08/22/2005 6:10:32 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

hmmm...that's all I know. Actually, when I questioned my friend about reports that Natalee had met Joran a few days previous to the night she dissapeared she said that she thinks the people who said that don't know what they are talking about. I hate to start talking about this because I wasn't there so I don't know really who saw what.


868 posted on 08/22/2005 6:19:35 PM PDT by kcat
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To: kcat

to the best of your knowledge has the FBI talked with all of the kids with relevant information, and esp the ones in the cliques Natalee associated with?

Also, do you know if they have been cautioned/asked to limit their public statements for reasons that include the integrity of the FBI's knowledge, compromising the case in other ways, and (equally important) to avoid unnecessary negative impressions pertaining to themselves and Natalee?


869 posted on 08/22/2005 6:21:55 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: kcat

kcat,

Good to have you here. Thanks for confirming what Beth has said and what many of us here believe.


870 posted on 08/22/2005 6:28:52 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I think Beth did that. It's info the defense lawyers would love to have about now.


871 posted on 08/22/2005 6:29:08 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: monkeywrench

as they should....


872 posted on 08/22/2005 6:30:28 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68; Malichi; Andy'smom; NCjim; Deguello; LegalEagle61; sissyjane; antceecee; ...
From Hannity and Colmes:

Paul Reynolds stated that the Twittys have hired a new attorney, one that will be more aggressive. He stated that yes there was a kidnapping, a coverup, a conspiracy, an alibi.

Reynolds also stated that from the beginning there was conflict between the lead investigator (Van Stratten) and the Prime Minister (Oduber) who wanted to bring in the FBI.

873 posted on 08/22/2005 6:31:41 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: kcat

P,S.

I'd also like to know if you are aware of any aruban official investigating the case has made a request to interview any of the kids here......or actually interviewed any of them.........an earnest aruban investigation would surely include it, one would think.


874 posted on 08/22/2005 6:34:28 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: TexKat

The gloves are coming off.

This is a dangerous time for all.


875 posted on 08/22/2005 6:38:48 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts (Aruba has a bad case of the VDS)
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To: TexKat

Did you catch Rita Cosby tonight?

Three Aruban girls comng forward to press charges against Joran for drugging and assaulting them as recently as this spring. An attorney and Beth were on talking about this.

This explains BOR pitiful teaser for his show I think.


876 posted on 08/22/2005 6:39:20 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Canadian Outrage
HE BELONGS in prison.

No, he does not deserve to live.

877 posted on 08/22/2005 6:40:50 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: truthluva

I really don't know. I was just cruising the net this afternoon and came across these.


878 posted on 08/22/2005 6:43:12 PM PDT by Malichi (!)
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To: truthluva

"Three Aruban girls comng forward to press charges..."

He will rue the day he learned those gang hand signal proclaiming the sexual acts he committed during his 'conquests'....if there are 3 to start, others will follow......same for American victims, I'd think.


879 posted on 08/22/2005 6:55:50 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Canadian Outrage

Evening CO,
Well hush my mouth!! $5.40 a gallon in Canada? Time to break out the roller skates and the bicycles.

We here in the USA owe this(gas crisis) to our commie democrats, who blocked building new oil refineries, nuke power plants and drilling for oil in ANWAR.

Yes, our commie democrats caused the very problems that plague us here in the USA. "Then they" point the finger of blame at President Bush.

I wonder what the price of a gallon of petrol now costs in Germany and France? Maybe they have preferred customer agreement as in Iraq, to the tune of .05 a gallon.

I keep my Vette gassed up and it goes out only during those nights of revelery and romantic interludes. Uh Oh, I done told on myself!! Oh wait! it is Bush's fault. I now get a pass on my extra-curricular activities.

Cruisin in my Vette with the gangster lean,
NSNR-GUM


880 posted on 08/22/2005 7:11:35 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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